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Teams top 5 needs

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(03-18-2022, 07:46 PM)I am Yoda Wrote:
(03-17-2022, 09:06 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Well aware of the cult of BAP warriors entrenched amongst us.  It's a beautiful idea, but so are unicorns and utopia. 

I could be all good with Hutch and Allen manning the pass rush duties and rotating in Smoot and hopefully that 4th rounder  (Smith?) we've not really seen yet.  Another jar on the shelf would be cool, but I'd like to spend picks on more barren position groups if value lines up well enough. 

XWR and IOL are def big on my list and I'm not opposed to a trade up if that's what it takes for a worthy X.

I know what orthodox opinion is on taking a WR at #1.  But are we sure Hutchinson is significantly better than the top 4 WRs in terms of being a football player?  Why is Edge valued more than Xwr?  Don't the moves in FA show that there isn't a clear cut answer to that?

So if the staff identifies a top wide receiver they covet, why not pull the trigger at #1?  Or if they identify that the Lions really, really want Hutchinson and swap #1 & #33 for #2 and #32 (and some change)?  Then draft the WR of your choice at #2.

Just floating it.

I think the biggest argument is lost value. If you draw your board up, and find that your blue chip top picks are any of the 4 WR, Hutch, and say, Neal. You mock and mock and mock to simulate things and find that almost every time you can get one of those WR around 10-12, and you'd rather them than anyone else at the top of your board, the value move is to trade back a bit, even if you don't get the full value of the R1 P1 pick that some chart assigned. Slip back to around 7 or 8, get another pick to work with later in the draft or a future pick, and take your guy.

If you take Wilson at 1, you've lost some of the value in the lost pick in a potential trade, allowed a higher-rated (per the consensus) player in Hutch drop to another team, and your guy may cost a hair more due to draft pick compensation tiering (though this isn't a significant loss).

You're right, if you have a WR head and shoulders above the other guys, damn the torpedoes, take your guy and prove all the pundits and draftniks wrong. Nothing wrong with that, but you better be confident in your scouting. You don't get to make many mistakes especially that  early in the darft.
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Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 03-17-2022, 06:12 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Caldrac - 03-17-2022, 06:18 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 03-17-2022, 06:34 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Caldrac - 03-17-2022, 06:42 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 03-17-2022, 07:02 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Caldrac - 03-17-2022, 07:07 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by wassy04 - 03-17-2022, 07:38 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 03-17-2022, 09:05 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by jaglou53 - 03-17-2022, 11:40 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 03-17-2022, 12:36 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by jaglou53 - 03-17-2022, 02:05 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 03-17-2022, 03:40 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by jaglou53 - 03-17-2022, 05:14 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheDogCatcher - 03-17-2022, 06:19 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by MikePete54 - 03-17-2022, 07:29 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Caldrac - 03-17-2022, 07:48 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 03-17-2022, 08:09 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Cleatwood - 03-17-2022, 08:19 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by wassy04 - 03-17-2022, 08:23 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Caldrac - 03-17-2022, 09:02 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 03-17-2022, 09:06 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by I am Yoda - 03-18-2022, 07:46 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Mikey - 03-21-2022, 08:44 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 03-17-2022, 10:15 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 03-17-2022, 11:22 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Mikey - 03-17-2022, 09:36 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-17-2022, 09:58 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Upper - 03-17-2022, 11:46 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NH3 - 03-17-2022, 12:36 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 03-17-2022, 12:49 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by CanDoBetter - 03-17-2022, 01:33 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by JagsFanClubOfMD - 03-17-2022, 02:44 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by irontrooper83 - 03-17-2022, 12:59 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by BristolianJaguar - 03-17-2022, 01:01 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Upper - 03-17-2022, 01:20 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Jaguarmeister - 03-17-2022, 01:35 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-17-2022, 03:02 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Caldrac - 03-17-2022, 10:27 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Upper - 03-17-2022, 11:05 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Caldrac - 03-18-2022, 05:30 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by The Real Marty - 03-18-2022, 05:51 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Mikey - 03-18-2022, 08:42 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-18-2022, 10:03 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Mikey - 03-18-2022, 03:50 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-18-2022, 07:29 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Upper - 03-18-2022, 03:59 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Jag88 - 03-18-2022, 07:50 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 03-28-2022, 05:47 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 04-30-2022, 07:25 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Upper - 03-28-2022, 07:28 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-28-2022, 08:24 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Mikey - 03-29-2022, 09:05 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-29-2022, 09:37 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Mikey - 03-29-2022, 04:00 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 03-29-2022, 04:24 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Mikey - 03-30-2022, 07:45 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-29-2022, 04:36 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Mikey - 03-30-2022, 07:51 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 03-30-2022, 08:12 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-30-2022, 09:14 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 03-30-2022, 09:54 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by JagFanatic24 - 03-31-2022, 08:39 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Cleatwood - 03-31-2022, 12:59 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-31-2022, 04:01 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Cleatwood - 03-31-2022, 05:12 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-31-2022, 06:16 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheDuke007 - 03-29-2022, 09:34 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Cleatwood - 03-29-2022, 10:35 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 03-29-2022, 10:59 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 03-29-2022, 12:30 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 03-28-2022, 08:46 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by jaguarmvp - 03-28-2022, 09:53 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Upper - 03-28-2022, 10:13 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 03-29-2022, 10:17 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 03-29-2022, 07:31 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 03-29-2022, 05:44 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by ATLjag - 03-29-2022, 09:14 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by DTWD4∞ - 03-29-2022, 10:24 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by rufftime - 03-29-2022, 11:44 AM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Upper - 03-29-2022, 04:49 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by NYC4jags - 03-29-2022, 05:05 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 03-29-2022, 04:55 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Upper - 03-29-2022, 05:07 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheDogCatcher - 03-29-2022, 05:48 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by ATLjag - 03-29-2022, 07:39 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheDuke007 - 03-29-2022, 09:12 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Upper - 03-31-2022, 02:06 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Cleatwood - 03-31-2022, 02:42 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Eric1 - 04-01-2022, 10:25 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by ChrisJagBoy - 04-01-2022, 11:44 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Upper - 04-01-2022, 10:35 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Eric1 - 04-01-2022, 11:00 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Upper - 04-10-2022, 01:45 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 04-10-2022, 01:54 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by TheDuke007 - 04-10-2022, 02:36 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by Upper - 04-10-2022, 02:45 PM
RE: Teams top 5 needs - by flgatorsandjags - 04-10-2022, 03:22 PM



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