(03-31-2022, 08:27 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(03-31-2022, 08:07 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: Other cities aren't structured like Jacksonville where the township proper is the entire county due to consolidation.  That's the reason for the suburban sprawl.

You could build it south of Butler along the Intercoastal.  Closer to the Beach and established nightlife. That could be developed from scratch and wouldn't have to end up as a 'boring, generic suburb'.  And by the way, as someone who worked downtown for 30 years, there's nothing particularly exciting about downtown.

I know WHY it happened. (county line/city border annex) Though it started 20 years prior to that.
(My grandparents lived in Springfield when it was still fairly new)

I'm more interested in correcting it -  not contributing to it. 

It would be exciting if it were properly revitalized instead of abandoned. 

Suburbs are boring and cities with vibrant waterfront districts are cool.

I understand your point, but...

We've had the team since 1995. is downtown any better?
Some sort of an entertainment complex has been planned since the late 90's. I know this because I was involved with the planning as part of a former job. Never happened.
We hosted the Super Bowl. We have a convention center. Some downtown hotels. Some of the neighborhoods are gentrified.
We've got a monorail that goes nowhere,
Downtown has probably experienced negative growth since 1995.
You can have Intercoastal front instead of Riverfront. The water is cleaner.

Can you honestly say that after 26 years of having the team that downtown is any better than it was in 1995?

I had a front row seat watching it not develop for 16 of the years we have had the team. Downtown is mired in as much mediocrity as the Jaguars are.
It is the perfect metaphor for them.

It's time to try something different.

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