(04-20-2022, 09:46 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(04-19-2022, 11:49 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Look dude, I am not here to support Alex Jones. The dude is a conspiracy theorist entertainer who, unfortunately is right enough for his words to carry weight. When our government and media are transparent and honest, it significantly reduces that type of influencer. This stuff has been around forever,. They literally had tabloids at every checkout counter at every supermarket, and when they went too far, they got sued. Most people didn't buy into it, because our government and media weren't constantly peddling misinformation and disinformation.

I notice you didn't answer the question of whether or not CNN should be banned. We know they constantly are putting out information that is false. They lost lawsuits in courts over intentional misrepresentation. Do you know for a FACT they intentionally slandered Sandmann? Or did some of the idiots that produce that stuff genuinely believe the dude was a racist. I bet you still think he's a racist.

You're so eager to censor stuff that supports your point of view. It sucks for the victims of Sandy Hook, but it sucks for us when we have people deciding what we see and hear. And if you don't think that gets influenced by our government and corporations, you're a rube. When our institutions clean up their act, people like Alex Jones will mostly go away. Unfortunately, there are too many people that want to treat the symptoms, not the illness. Hey, whatever's profitable.

Herp-DERP

1. Nothing that idiot says carries weight - he takes advantage of the feeble minded and consequences be damned

2.Leave it in the tabloids - at least a greater % of Americans knew that stuff was garbage - now we have a divided and dumbed down society eager to adopt anything that remotely resonates with their point of view and giving voice to it digitally makes it dangerous

3. You could make arguments for censoring a half dozen biased news outlets - CNN may be one of them - none of them are nearly as careless as Jones was in the case this thread is actually about

4. Don't tell me what I'm eager for, you presumptive wind bag, and please proof that sentence again.
Why would I want to censor stuff that SUPPORTS my point of view?  You are not only wrong about what I'm supposedly eager about, you can't express it. 

Here's a clue: The point was about censoring harmful disinformation. You've trodden off into some other horse [BLEEP] that wasn't the point.

Your vitriol is the primary driver behind your content, not anything substantive. You have become quite adept at picking up the things you can correct, like typos, while avoiding engaging in any real dialogue. You're smart enough to notice the proofing error, but not genuine enough to address the crux of the argument. Talk about some herp-derp. 

We all know what your point was. Norman addressed it when he asked who gets to decide what's harmful disinformation, and, more importantly, who gets to decide who is censored by it, which is the big concern. You say the courts decide, like that's satisfactory. It's not. They are there to award punitive damages when someone speaks in a way that is harmful to others. They did their job. No one here cares that Alex Jones got financially damaged for spouting off [BLEEP]. 

However, there are several of us that don't want to encourage the process of silencing bad speech because we believe that it's a first principle of Democracy. You remove it, and you remove one of the pillars of liberalism. Your type of thinking will lead to abuse by those in power. It already has. You hide behind the free market on this issue, but is that a cause you really care about? You really think companies should be allowed this kind of discretion? 

MY point was that people like you, who want to silence all the "bad" people, are addressing the symptom, not the disease. The problem is really the failings of our institutions to work for the people, being honest and accountable. If we focus on fixing that, the Alex Jones' of the world lose most of their following. Why don't you point your vitriol towards the establishment that's [BLEEP] everyone over? Alex Jones is small potatoes. 

For all your arrogance, you sure are short-sighted. But hey, maybe you can find some editing mistakes in this post, so you don't have to think about anything. Please present your findings to the forum as proof of your superior intelligence.

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