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Tucker Carlson lying about Disney?

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(04-24-2022, 05:45 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(04-24-2022, 05:21 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Let me put it another way. If we allowed Christianity to be taught in schools, you would be perfectly within your linguistic rights to say Christian teachers were grooming atheist children to become Christians, especially if the Christian teachers were actively proselytizing to the students. A better word is conditioning, but grooming works.

Now, let's say they were secretly converting children and telling them they didn't need to tell their parents, because they are children of God. Now, let's say that the people started to complain about this, and their representatives took notices and said, look, we are going to pass a bill that says we don't really think religion should be discussed in school before third grade. After third grade, you can have discussions about faith when appropriate, but we still don't want you trying to convert children and believe that's something that something that should be dealt with at the family level. Then Christians called it the Don't Say God act and tried to make the governor out to be a religious bigot.

This is more or less exactly what has transpired, and, unless you try to jump through hoops to reframe that analogy, you should be able to see why this whole thing progressive rhetoric.

Your metaphor is actually spot on, but, there is no evidence that anything analogous to proselytizing for queerness was taking place in public schools.
The legislative effort began because legislators were upset about how a case in a Leon County middle school was handled.
  You should read up on the case.  The school didn't have good guidelines or procedures in place, mistakes were made.  The parents knew their kid was having queer feelings, they were open to having a trans child, they were OK with the math teacher knowing, but they wanted to be in the loop on every step.  On telling more teachers.  On changing nicknames or pronouns.  On changing bathrooms.  The school didn't realize how fully the parents wanted to be in the loop.  Again, inadequate guidelines and procedures.  
The facts are all out there.  No one is alleging that the student was being recruited or proselytized into a trans identity.  And this was the most egregious case the legislature knew of.
The new law is pretty narrowly tailored to what actually happened, and I agree with you that the left has vastly overreacted to it.  But it also has nothing to do with pedophiles or groomers.  DeSantis is pushing his advantage by forcing the other side to react. The Republicans love pissing off the libs and calling them all pedophiles certainly does it.  But he doesn't need to do this.  Disney might still be donating to Republicans if DeSantis had just handled this more gingerly.  They could have passed the same law and pissed off fewer people.

As usual you are wrong again.  I know that Tucker Carlson probably triggers you, but this was a pretty good piece that he did that explains how the bill started.






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Tucker Carlson lying about Disney? - by mikesez - 04-23-2022, 11:04 AM
RE: Tucker Carlson lying about Disney? - by Jag88 - 04-24-2022, 07:57 AM
RE: Tucker Carlson lying about Disney? - by jagibelieve - 04-25-2022, 09:41 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 04-25-2022, 07:09 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 04-25-2022, 09:23 AM



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