(04-25-2022, 09:02 PM)Eric1 Wrote:

(04-25-2022, 06:20 PM)JagsorDie Wrote: I’m with you on the DK trade. I don’t think it is a popular opinion but how [BLEEP] awesome would it be to have a Trevor to DK connection for the next 5-10 years. Samuel is more risky imo because he doesn’t appear to want to continue playing the position that he had all his stats at(rb/wr) last year which is what I would want him to play and really the only reason I would give up the #1 pick. 

Otherwise If I’m stuck with the pick I am probably going Hutch with the surprise pick being sauce if my scouts say he is everything that he appears to be draft grade wise.

That's just not true though, he was plenty productive already as a WR before he started getting carries. Up until week 9, Deebo had only 6 carries throughout 8 games. 2 carries in week 2 for 8 yards. 2 in week 3 for 0 yards. 1 in week 4 for 1 yard and 1 in week 5 for 13 yards and a TD. His receiving numbers during that stretch... 49 catches for 882 yards and 4 TDs. 4 100+ yard receiving games during that stretch 189, 156, 100 and 171.

Week 9-17 (he missed week 12) is when they started to really give him carries, he got 5-8 carries per game during that stretch. His receiving numbers during those games. 28 catches for 523 yards and 2 TDs. Only 1 100+ receiving yards game during that stretch, 159. 3 weeks in a row he only logged 1 catch as well, weeks 10, 11 and 13.

His receiving targets went from an average of 11 targets per game during week 1-8, down to an average of 5 targets per game during week 9-17. Now granted you could argue that he got those targets in carries, but he was already very productive as a WR during the 1st half of the season. I don't see any reason why his receiving production would have just suddenly dropped off if they didn't start giving him carries and just kept feeding him in the passing game.

It’s not true about the stats or that he does not want to continue playing out of the back field. You are right about the stats continuing to rise but do you think that keeps him the conversation for warranting the 1st over all pick? Getting a guy who can  be a dual threat at least to me puts him I that conversation. Otherwise I’d rather have DK if we are talking pure WR. But overall you are right about his stats. 

I was just pitching at the hypothetical of trading a player for the 1st

---