(05-01-2022, 11:23 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(05-01-2022, 10:31 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Seems like you're giving them credit for assembling a top-5 defense.  Is that your intent?  

I don't think any defense can go from the bottom to the top in one year.  But if they have, as you suggest, that's an incredible achievement.

No. Im saying that they spent a ton of money on defense, used 3 of their first 4 picks on defense and spent even more draft picks on defense.

This better turn around fast and into an elite defense very quickly.

I think the offense will be very behind the D.

I think if Etienne is 100% by week 1 I feel alot better about the offense.  Etienne will be a big key for this offense imo.

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(05-01-2022, 11:56 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(05-01-2022, 11:23 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: No. Im saying that they spent a ton of money on defense, used 3 of their first 4 picks on defense and spent even more draft picks on defense.

This better turn around fast and into an elite defense very quickly.

I think the offense will be very behind the D.

They'll be a lot better, but with so many new players, some of them rookies, it'll take time.  

Also, I don't know what you mean when you say, "They better..."  Usually, "They better..." is followed by, "...or..."  So, they better turn around fast, or what?

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(05-01-2022, 11:56 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I think we will be a top 10 defense this year. I'm going to say 7 or 8 overall defense.

I'm going to say 10th to 12th.  So many new players, including quite a few rookies who've never played a down in the NFL.

Lloyd is a rookie but he is a very experienced one and I don't think he will play like a rookie.  I think he becomes the leader of our D pretty early and makes the Pro Bowl as a rookie.  First player since Josh Allen to do that for us.  Our defense hasn't been the same since Poz left and one of the biggest reasons for that imo was the leadership.  I think Lloyd brings that day 1

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