(05-09-2022, 10:16 AM)jj82284 Wrote:

(05-09-2022, 09:29 AM)mikesez Wrote: I don't think we should be hectoring each other over interpretations of 150 year old history.
Let's agree that raising a child is inherently a cash negative proposition, so some level of welfare or subsidy is needed for some of the people raising children.
Let's agree that the welfare state today creates incentives to not work, and to avoid getting raises.
So let's work on that.
Please?

In every stare that I am aware of, Father's are legally obligated to financially support their children.

Right, there are legal penalties if a father fails to pay up.
That's good.
But some dads are in jail.
Other dads are paid under the table.
It's part of our solution, but it's far from complete.

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(05-09-2022, 10:04 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Can't be done. You have to get rid of the cancerous ideology the state is using to create an authoritarian regime posing as a democratic republic.

I don't understand what you are saying.
There are elections.  Candidate A or candidate B wins.
Then there are sessions of the legislature.  Bill C passes or fails to pass.
At what point in that process can we "get rid of" any "cancerous ideology" ?

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