(05-10-2022, 05:06 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(05-10-2022, 07:39 AM)jj82284 Wrote: I'm not talking about a caste system.  I'm talking about viewing matting through an economic lense.  On average women make more than men until they are 35 years old.  For women to view men as suitable long term partners they want guys that make around 50% more than them.  That math doesn't work!  Right now. We designed a system to waste guys time.  If the goal is to become an economically attractive man with a family the displacement of men till their mid thirties is a recipe for disaster.

Obviously I didn't understand what you're trying to advocate for here.
Can you explain it again?
I mean I noticed you advocated for 12 year old boys of middling means to become apprentices, typically that would last 7 years, so they'd be 19, with a guild license, and ready to get into a socially sanctioned marriage with a 14 year old girl.  Is that what you actually want to go back to? We're mixing up a lot of time periods here and I don't think you actually want to go back to any of them.
You know why society keeps extending the age of childhood and allowing earlier and earlier retirement, right? It's not big government.  It's just mechanization and automation.