(05-31-2022, 10:00 AM)Mikey Wrote:

(05-28-2022, 10:58 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Ngakoue's production in his first 3 years was easily good enough to begin negotiations on a new contract prior to his 4th year.
If you look around at teams that have extended talented players before their final year, or at least begun earnest negotiation to get something done before the first contract expires - Ngakoue's situation fits for either approach. 

The problem was twofold. 

Ngakoue and his agent came in with an unrealistic ask - and the Jags FO came in initially with what the player's camp saw as an insulting offer. 

Eventually, if the leaked numbers are accurate (and we don't really know that), the Jags gave him a pretty good offer. That's where they reportedly ended up. Not where they started. 
He was completely disenfranchised by that point and was determined to seek greener pastures. 

In my mind, both parties failed at the negotiation table. 

It sucks - but the folks flailing about trying to act like we didn't lose a very valuable pass rusher and bashing the player are kidding themselves. Situational pass rushers have great value in this league, even with limited run defense skill. The guy has ended would-be game-winning drives with strip sacks multiple times in his career.
2022 may turn out to be the first year we've had a player come close to matching Ngakoue's pressure and sack numbers since he left. That is a significant loss.

Agreed completely. I don't take umbrage with Ngakoue. But if you expect to be paid like a top player, you either need to perform at that level or prove irreplaceable. While we've not had dominant pass rush in the years since his departure, I'd attribute that a lot more to losing guys like Calais and Ramsey than to us refusing to cave to his demands.

I think his history of relocation is showing that he either is not irreplaceable or is not performing equal to the pay he expects or signs for.

I hope he underperforms for the duration of his time in Indy

We're on the same page, but I do not think he's as easily replaceable as you and others do. No biggie. Lots of perspectives here. 

I attribute our lack of pass rush more to not having a direct counterpart for Allen than to the other losses, but losing Calais definitely hurt as he played that very role at times. 

Ngokoue/Calais/Allen was the perfect storm because it allowed them to use Ngakoue situationally and kick Calais outside for big end run fits. 

Anyway - the Jags ticked him off - he wanted too much. Over and done with. 
 Nothing to be done now but pray we have something with Allen and Walker working the edges.

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