(06-03-2022, 07:55 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(06-03-2022, 05:59 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Oh I remember, the " low ball" offers were probably more than he has ever made.  Likely around 15 or 16 starting out if we ended up offering 19 mil with 50 mil guaranteed after the 1st 2 years.  Anything under 20 mil was considered low balling him lol.  If it was 50 after the 1st 2 then it was at least a 3 year deal.  Thats more years and more mil per than he has ever touched.  Not to mention the 40 mil he lost lol.  There is a reason he fired his agent right after.  He knew he was given horrible advise and way overvalued himself.

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He's not even making 15 a year and there is a reason he keeps getting traded.  He's a good pass rusher but you can't be a liability like he is.  He's great if you have a big lead and can just let him pin his ears back and rush the passer.  But if you are in a close game and have to respect the other teams run game he should be on the sidelines.  I think he had a reality check though.  He turned down 19 mil per year here and is making 13 mil per year now and it's 3 years later where players are getting paid more.  He made 12 mil the year with the Vikings, not to mention he played that last year here on his rookie deal which was worth less than 1 mil so he lost over 18 mil that year

To the bolded:

You seriously believe that Yannick Ngakoue went from being this team-first guy who his coaches and teammates raved about to a disgruntled holdout spewing venom on social media because the Jags brass offered him 15 or 16 mil per year?? 

LOL

No, dude. I'd wager it took much more (less technically) than that to make him do such a complete 180. 
They had to have legit offered him some peanuts deal with a 2 year team out clause. I'd love to know how those negotiations began. I bet they legit insulted him for him to react like that. We'll probably never know the details. 

He was a fool to not take their final offer (if that leaked figure is actually true/accurate), but he was also wise to get away from this franchise at that time also. It all went downhill FAST. 

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To the blue:

Yannick's deal with the colts is actually a rather lucrative one. 
He got 21 million guaranteed AT SIGNING.  26 million guaranteed total. It's a fully guaranteed contract. 
You're also ignoring the fact that they traded their former #34 overall pick to get him. 
It's not a blockbuster deal for a pass rusher, but for a guy with his skill set it's good money he can retire comfortably on. 

And yes, you can be a good pass rusher and still be suspect vs the run. 
DL players rotate more than any other position on the field and coordinators create packages for different pass rushers commonly.  The Jags did it very successfully with him and any other team could too if they've got complimentary players to rotate. This is also why he gets traded. Not every team can pull that off, but some are willing to try if they think their DL roster has the horses. 

Absolutely, 15 or 16 mil was a slap in the face to him and his agent, that was an " insult".  He thought he was worth much more. 19 mil was a low ball offer and why negotiations got called off thankfully. If the reports were false you can bet money him or his agent would of came out and said it.  They wanted teams to know what type of contract his camp was looking for.  You can try to break down the contract and make it look good how ever you want but 26 mil for 2 years isn't good at all if you're one of the better pass rushers and only 27.  There is a few reasons for that and most know why.  The 34th pick means nothing, I haven't been impressed with Rock Ya Sin and their nickel corner beat him out which is why he got traded.

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