(06-04-2022, 12:41 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: (06-04-2022, 12:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: It has everything to do with the guy when you already have him on the roster and he was producing, you foolishly trade him away for picks to prove to him just how replaceable he is, and you wind up with K'Lavon Chaisson=who, BTW-is super motivated now that the team drafted yet another guy to replace Yannick.
That's what...two top 20 picks since 2020 in the attempt to replace Yan?
Nahh. No relation to Yann's departure what so ever. Nope. Absolutely none!
How much better and more balanced would this team be if it spent picks on another position and still had a guy who consistently put up 8-10 sacks a year?
Suppose, instead of Chaissing after Yan's replacement, we drafted Justin Jefferson. Would we have had to spend up to $84 million on kirk?!? What if instead of trying to show Ramsey how replaceable he is by drafting Henderson, what if we drafted Tristan Wirfs or your guy Becton?
What if, instead of still trying to make up for getting rid of Yan, we didn't draft Walker #1 overall? Would we have picked #1 overall? Wat if we focused more on the offensive line to protect Trevor Lawrence, or was able to trade back (even at a lower price) and land one of the numerous WRs available?
Nope. Trading away talented players has absolutely NOTHING to do with poor drafting.
Shaking my head in dismay.
You're are helping make my point, Dave was drafting for position, you never do that. Always take the BPA, we had the wrong guy at GM. I'd take Fatukasi and Oluakun at 20 mil anyway over Yawn
(06-04-2022, 12:40 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Bullseye, you can't have any meaningful discourse with someone who is willfully disingenuous in an attempt to "not be wrong."
He's just gonna' keep spouting the same garbage even if he knows it's not accurate.
Lol, or you 2 could be wrong? The Vikings, Ravens, and Raiders have helped proven that. I guess the Colts are the smartest team lol
(06-04-2022, 12:38 PM)Bullseye Wrote: That's EXACTKY what they did! They drafted the WORST they could find in Chaisson. They got 2 sacks out of him in 2 seasons...nowhere CLOSE to Yan's productivity, even if you think Ngakoue is the absolute worst run defender in the league. Then this year they spent the #1 overall pick on a guy who hasn't played edge rusher, and who had less than 10 career sacks on an absolutely loaded Georgia team.
But you're going to tell me getting rid of Yan had nothing to do with poor draft decisions and the team having the worst record in the league for two years running?!?
Seriously?!?
I'm talking about Walker, Dave drafted for need, that was his problem. That will get one fired every time. Dave was a bad drafter before he traded Yawn
Everybody drafts for need with some of their picks. Dave just couldn't stop himself from reaching too far to do it.
Drafting for need is not an issue if you aren't reaching too far down your board to fill the need.
I bet 30 teams this year passed on higher rated prospects at some point in the first three rounds to take a player they needed.
Hell, the Jags pretty clearly did it with Walker, Fortner and Snoop Conner.
The larger issue for this topic is Caldwell's (and eventually Coughlin's) inability to retain draft picks they hit on.
The work isn't done when you land the talent. Players, despite their ego, personality, or misguided agents and advisors, have to be MANAGED. Negotiating their retention can be screwed up a million different ways. We witnessed it with Ngakoue and Ramsey.
Both players were alienated in some way and despite much of (probably most of) the blame falling on those players, the front office failed to get the job done at the end of the day. They share the blame.
Whatever your wacky takes on the players might be. The team suffered when they walked. Significantly.
