(06-04-2022, 01:42 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(06-04-2022, 01:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Sometimes BPA meets need, so you you are going to draft need and a lot of teams have need at a lot of positions so needs will get filled.  That's said 99% of the time you take the player at the top of your board.  Some teams do draft need and those are the ones that pick at the top, glad it looks like we have finally broke that so hopefully we won't be picking neat the top again any time soon.   Did you see the teams board?  What players did the team have rated higher than Walker?  I think it was pretty clear that Walker was their highest rated player.  I think it's also been pretty clear that Baalke takes the top player on his board passing up players of need multiple times.  He has said it multiple times as well as Doug, stick to their board and take the top player.  Muma was another clear example.

Muma is probably the ONLY example of BAP selection in the Jags 2022 draft. 
And even that can be viewed as a need since our new DC wants to employ the $LB position and we didn't have a clear candidate on the roster.

The Jags traded up twice for, drum roll please...   NEED. 

You believe in fairy tales all you want, pal. 

Teams draft for need just as often as they select a straight up BAP pick.

Lol, you still live in your fantasy world thinking teams won't take the top guy on their board and pass up need.  Yes they were need buy also the top guy on their board.  You don't trade up they way they did just till fill a need unless their is a guy there at the top of their board that fills a need.  Lloyd was the best LB in the draft and they even said they had him as a top 15 player.  Connor was a 5th round pick, we really had no clue how their board looked in the 5th round but I think it's safe to say he was their top guy on the board the way they traded up for him.  They could of stayed and took a different back.  Still living in your fantasy world I see thinking teams won't stick to their board and take the top guy over a position more of need when multiple coaches and GMs have talked about this for years, even Doug and Ballke talked about it and was pretty clear after the draft it's what they did.

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(06-04-2022, 02:05 PM)Bullseye Wrote:

(06-04-2022, 12:41 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: You're are helping make my point, Dave was drafting for position, you never do that.  Always take the BPA, we had the wrong guy at GM.  I'd take Fatukasi and Oluakun at 20 mil anyway over Yawn

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Lol, or you 2 could be wrong?  The Vikings, Ravens, and Raiders have helped proven that.   I guess the Colts are the smartest team lol

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I'm talking about Walker, Dave drafted for need, that was his problem.  That will get one fired every time.  Dave was a bad drafter before he traded Yawn

If Dave was drafting for position or need, don't you think artificially creating the need by letting those players walk didn't provide temptation/extra incentive to do just that?!?  You said there was no link between letting guys like Yan and Ramsey go and poor drafting, and then you say you never draft for need.  The Jaguars created their own needs by getting rid of productive players, then drafted to fill those needs they needlessly created. 

They let CB Jalen Ramsey leave, and followed that decision up by drafting CB CJ Henderson 9th overall, signing Griffin to a free agent deal, then drafting Campbell at the top of the 2md round.

I've already discussed the foolish efforts to replace Yan.

They cut Fournette and wound up spending a first round pick on Etienne.

That's three insstances of cutting or trading productive players that contributed to the last winning team we had, then drafting almost immediately in the first round the following draft to try to fill the vacuum created by those transactions. 

How in the hell can you deny the link between those transactions and the subsequent draft picks?!?

What?  No we didn't, Robinson was a UDFA, he out played LF in trying camp and then we cut him.  There isn't any denying that J Rob is better than LF.  That's what bad GMs do is not stick to their board and over draft for a play that's of more of need.

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