(06-04-2022, 03:36 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: (06-04-2022, 03:23 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: The bolded is:- Inaccurate
- Conflating unrelated matters
- Wildly assumptive
Those teams don't disagree with me. They vied for his services and moved on when they saw a different way forward. They all got what they paid for. I bet they are all happy customers. They got affordable sacks and pressures.
The colts clearly value his production and see an easy way to maneuver around his lackluster play vs the run.
(so did the Jags)
You have absolutely no idea if the Jags 2020 offer included more guaranteed money than the 26 mil he's guaranteed from the colts.
We never saw any terms, and the leaked offer amount has never even been confirmed by either party. It was most likely leaked by the team in an attempt to save face with agents and the NFLPA. If so, they are obviously going to try to paint the picture of an exorbitant offer even if it wasn't.
But, then again, you're a guy who believes in the tooth fairy and pure BPA, so it's probably really easy for you to lie to yourself about all of the circumstances around the Jags' failures to retain key talent that impacts their W/L column.
The Viking are happy they traded a 2nd and a 4th for Yawn for less than a years of service? Lmao, the Ravems and Raiders dumped him pretty quick as well. Those teams could of kept him if they thought he was worth it. You are reaching for any comment you can to try to make your argument and you haven't came up with a good one yet lol. That tweet from Tom P. is all we have, he's a NFL reporter, what do you have to back up your made up thoughts on the situation? Nothing lol. If those reports were false there isn't any doubt Yawn and his agent would of came out and said they were false. Cmon man think! They wanted teams tonknow what they were looking for it just didn't turn out the way they planned because he wasn't worth close to that. The main reason Yawn fired his [BLEEP] lol
Again - inaccurate.
The vikes gave a 2nd and a 5th. They received a 3rd and a 5th for him when they moved on.
While there he recorded a sack in each of his 5 starts plus 12 pressures, 4 QB knockdowns, and 2 forced fumbles. (5 starts, one partial game) Not bad.
The vikings (as referenced earlier in thread multiple times) didn't have the necessary rotational pieces to utilize him as a situational rusher only so they went a different way.
Sure they may not feel "happy" about it, but he
was producing as a pass rusher for them. They just didn't have the luxury of using their DE that way exclusively.
Baltimore thought they did, so they gave it a shot as well. A team on it's way to the playoffs saw an opportunity to pair Calais Campbell with his former teammate and try to recapture some of the magic they had together in Jax.
Different scheme, different usage, didn't work out as well as they hoped, but it got them into the postseason.
I doubt they shed any tears one way or the other. It wasn't a crazy investment.
The Raiders got what they paid for in Ngakoue in year one and then some, but it was a Mayock/Gruden regime then. New coach, new GM, new defensive scheme and a DC who prioritizes size on his DL.
More 3-4 in a multiple system makes Ngakoue a bad fit for the scheme and clearly not a philosophical fit for the traits Patrick Graham wants on his DLs.
This stuff is all very benign. There was no abject failure at any of his stops that resulted in disgruntled employers shipping him off in a cloud of drama or disappointment. Just football business decisions.
If the colts get from him what the '21 raiders did, they'll be happy indeed.
