(06-04-2022, 06:30 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(06-04-2022, 05:05 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Again - inaccurate.

The vikes gave a 2nd and a 5th. They received a 3rd and a 5th for him when they moved on.
While there he recorded a sack in each of his 5 starts plus 12 pressures, 4 QB knockdowns, and 2 forced fumbles. (5 starts, one partial game) Not bad.

The vikings (as referenced earlier in thread multiple times) didn't have the necessary rotational pieces to utilize him as a situational rusher only so they went a different way. 
Sure they may not feel "happy" about it, but he was producing as a pass rusher for them. They just didn't have the luxury of using their DE that way exclusively. 

Baltimore thought they did, so they gave it a shot as well. A team on it's way to the playoffs saw an opportunity to pair Calais Campbell with his former teammate and try to recapture some of the magic they had together in Jax. 
Different scheme, different usage, didn't work out as well as they hoped, but it got them into the postseason. 
I doubt they shed any tears one way or the other. It wasn't a crazy investment. 

The Raiders got what they paid for in Ngakoue in year one and then some, but it was a Mayock/Gruden regime then. New coach, new GM, new defensive scheme and a DC who prioritizes size on his DL. 
More 3-4 in a multiple system makes Ngakoue a bad fit for the scheme and clearly not a philosophical fit for the traits Patrick Graham wants on his DLs. 

This stuff is all very benign. There was no abject failure at any of his stops that resulted in disgruntled employers shipping him off in a cloud of drama or disappointment. Just football business decisions. 

If the colts get from him what the '21 raiders did, they'll be happy indeed.

Some of this could be right but you left out the most important parts.  These teams were bringing in a good young pass rusher and thought he was part of the future until they seen the liability he brings and realizedhe wasnt worth it and they cleaned their hands of him pretty quickly.  The same reason he wasn't a hot FA.  He is a huge liability in one aspect of the game.  With that said he could be a issue in the locker room, I'm not sure about that.  A lot think pass rusher is the 2nd most important position an football and most teams haven't even really looked his way or tried to bring him in.

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All of it is right. 

Clearly you either didn't read my posts, or you don't understand what you read. 

I addressed this overblown run defense thing thoroughly. 

His run defense is not an issue when he's used situationally in the right scheme. (It wasn't a big deal in Jax when they finally had the pieces around him to take him off the field more often in obvious run situations)
One team did not have the luxury of using him that way (vikings) - another team found he wasn't a scheme fit (Baltimore) and he was a great fit at the third team until they changed their entire regime and defensive scheme. (raiders)

You've attempted to make way too much out of his play vs the run in almost every post and I've repeatedly addressed it. Try to keep up.

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