(06-10-2022, 10:31 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:

(06-10-2022, 06:22 PM)Bullseye Wrote: What else is there to say about those statements that doesn't belabor the obvious?

Yes, Ngakpue has gone to a lot of teams in a short period of time.  Know who else has done that?  Brandin Cooks, 1 guy LOL who is also not a superstar but at least he is better at his position than Yawn who has been traded more than Ngakoue has. Cooks is not on his 5th team in four years but ok But as much as you want to make that a negative for Ngakoue (and by extension Brandin Cooks), the fact is, both players are better than anyone Jacksonville has at those positions LOL Allen is better overall and all of our DE/OLB are better vs the run than Yawn-to say nothing of the fact teams were still interested in acquiring both players.  Both players have been on teams far better than the Jaguars have been since they traded Ngakoue.  You keep harping on Ngakoue being traded several times, but it doesn't change anything For you maybe, The fact is NO ONE WANTS TOO KEEP THE GUY, NO ONE WANTS TO SIGN HIM LONG TERM, MUCH LESS FOR WHAT HE THINKS HE IS WORTH BECAUSE SIMPLY HE IS NOT WORTH THAT.  The Jaguars still haven't drafted or signed anyone that matches his production. For sacks only

As for Ramsey having a bad Super Bowl...I can agree with that I can agree with the idea that if Burrow had better protection on that final play, Ramsey likely would have been beaten for the winning TD in the Super Bowl.  But the key phrase is "in the Super Bowl."  Despite all of the vilification those on your side like to heap on Ramsey, the fact is almost every team in the league was interested almost every team? I don't remember that, have a link for that? I remember 4 maybe 5 teams in trading for him, and the team that wound up trading for him was the team that won the Super Bowl Hahahahaha yeah the team that only won it because they changed the QB for someone capable, and you say this like Ramsey is the only good player in that team LMAO .  They were in no way dissuaded from trading for him, nor were they in any way dissuaded from signing him to a long term contract Why you keep bringing this up? KHAN SAID HE WAS WILLING TO MAKE HIM THE HIGHEST PAID CB IN THE LEAGUE, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT?.  After trading Ramsey and Ngakoue, the Jaguars were nowhere close to winning the Super Bowl HAHAHAHA and this is only due to the fact that we traded those 2? lolololololol.  In fact, the team was literally the furthest team away from winning the Super Bowl.  The last time the Jaguars were even close to the Super Bowl was in 2017, with a team featuring....wait for it....Jalen Ramsey and Yannick Ngakoue. Yeah because they were the stars of the team LOL Bouye was as good as Ramsey that year, we had Telvin, M. Jackson, Dareus, Poz and Calais was our best D-line player and it wasn't even close, but yeah it was only thanks to Ngkoue and Ramsey xD

I'm also not sure why you think their presence would have only made the difference in 1 game.  Out of what body cavity of yours did you pull that figure?!? Ok then show me proof we would have gone to the playoffs with those 2 on the team, I'll wait. I guess you also forgot BOTH guys were on the team on 2018 and what happened? LOL 5-11

What kills me is you take some sort of victory in not paying for players who have performed at a high level for this team, only to celebrate a record breaking class of free agent signings of players totaling over $170 million Celebrate? I said Baalke did good, that's about it, I don't remember celebrating much, you are welcome to prove me wrong though. Also none of the guys we signed were headaches like those 2 guys you love so much in guaranteed money to guys who were nowhere near as productive for their teams as Ramsey and Ngakoue were for ours.  We signed a #3 WR at best in Kirk, a #4 WR at best in Zay Jones, who failed miserably in Buffahole, a guy who was deemed a disappointment in NY for Evan Engram.  Scherff was a good signing.  Oluakun and FO were good signings.  Williams was a good signing.  But our cap, at face value, isn't as good as it might otherwise have been before all of the signings.  So you burned through all of the cap room you created by not signing Ngakoue and Ramsey for players not as good.  The team hasn't won any more games since trading them away Because those 2 are the only guys that left, and nothing else happened that could have made us a worse team right? my god .  We didn't even maximize the return from the trades, absolutely botching the 2020 draft.  What is there to show for letting them get away? Show me proof that we would be a much better team with much better talent and a record had we kept those guys

And once freaking again (starting to wonder if you have alzheimer or something) 

One idiot FAKED AN INJURY just to get his wish and HE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T WANNA STAY HERE
The other idiot thought he was the best pass rusher in the league (LOL) and thought he deserved and big fat contract when NO ONE BUT YOU AND HIM think he deserves that. He also was being a headcase and even insulted the owner. He also refused to negotiate and asked for a trade

AGAIN, THEY DIDN'T WANNA BE HERE ANYMORE!!! 

I wanted Ramsey to stay (WE ALL DID) before he started his crap, HE WASN'T GONNA SIGN A CONTRACT WITH US ANYMORE!!
Ngakoue you can sing all the praise you want but 3 facts 1.- NO ONE WANTS TO GIVE HIM A BIG FAT CONTRACT OR EVEN KEEP HIM FOR MORE THAN 1 YEAR. 2 HE IS GOD AWFUL VS THE RUN. 3 HE IS A GOOD PASS RUSHER, NOT GREAT, NOT ELITE WHICH IS WHY NO ONE WANTS TO GIVE HIM THE MONEY HE WANTS.

I am out. It's pathetic people still cry about this.