(06-11-2022, 07:11 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(06-11-2022, 06:02 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Let me guess....you got this from the same source that told you Jameis Winston threw more INTs in one season than any other QB in NFL history?  The same source that told you Tebow was any good?  Maybe you'll have better luck with another position.

By the way here is a direct comparison between the two.

https://stathead.com/football/pcm_finder...&request=1

If you want to compare Ngakoue's first three years to Allen's, I can do that too.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...akYa00.htm

Ngakoue's three year totals were 48 games to Allen's 40.  He proved to be more durable.

Forced fumbles?  10-3 Ngakoue.

INTs?  1-1.  Push.

TFL?  29-25.  Edge:  Ngakoue

FR:  2-0 Ngakoue

Tackles 128-78:  Edge Allen

Solo Tackles:  84-69 Edge:  Allen

Sacks:  29.5=20  Edge:  Ngakoue

The one thing Allen is better at is stopping the run.  He still hasn't made anywhere near the # of impact plays Ngakoue did in his first three seasons, which is the main reason to keep Ngakoue.  But if you're happy with fewer impact plays from your defense...as I said..you got the team you deserved and wanted the past two seasons.

Winston threw more Ints than anyone in 30 years, lol.  One [BLEEP] might stink worse than the other lmao.  One think you probably didn't know is that Yawn had waaaayyyyyyy more talent on those Jags teams than Allen has ever had.   If you want to talk about stats on a fair playing field there isn't a better way then to compare the 1 year they were both on the same team which was Allen's rookie year.  Yawn had 8 sacks while Allen had 10.5.  Not to mention Allen isn't a liability in any aspect while Yawn is the worst at his position in 1, Allen can also drop in coverage and confuse defenses and he is good at that something Yawn isn't cable of.  Yawn has had a couple good games when he got a sack strip but he has never dominated a game like Allen did last year in the Buff game.  The Colts and Dolphins game Allen was pretty dominant as well regardless what a stat sheet says.  We will see what Allen can do this year with finally some talent around him.

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LOL, this is painful for you isn't it?  The truth hurts lmao.  The grades aren't even close.  It's good to know we won't have the liability on the end.


https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/yannick-ngakoue/10703

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/josh-allen/50235

I already pointed out Ramsey and Ngakoue come to a defense that ranked 31st out of 32nd in scoring in 2015 and those two helped bring the defense up to 5th their rookie years. Yan STILL led the team in sacks without the talent of the 2017 team around him.  His rookie year without all of that surrounding talent, he put up more sacks than Josh Allen did in ANY season where HE didn't have all of that talent.

PFF?!?  Seriously?

This is the same group that gave Derek Cox a higher grade than Darelle Revis.  God.  How many Gene Smith acolytes ran with that one?!?

PFF?!?

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