(06-23-2022, 02:22 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(06-23-2022, 02:08 PM)Predator Wrote: He had plenty of opportunities 2003-2005.*

Do you seriously think there was some sort of conspiracy against him by two head coaches and multiple offensive coordinators to game plan to keep him out of the end zone? That's just asinine.

He just wasn't very good in goal line situations.

I think it was crystal clear that TC had an old school approach of taking his "half-back" out of the game in the red zone and using a power back of some sort. The philosophy was oft discussed and criticized at the time. It couldn't be further from "conspiracy." 

BTW - Stacey Mack played under Tom Coughlin in Jax. You seem to be implying otherwise. 

*Fred missed five games in 2005 due to injury

MJD and his red zone skill certainly hurt Fred's legacy numbers. I still don't think it is an indicator that Fred wasn't good in the red zone.

I implied no such thing about Mack. I've been talking all along about the 3 seasons after Mack and Coughlin, where there wasn't anyone else with enough ability on the roster to make up for Taylor's inability to get in the end zone.

I don't know why your are fixated on Coughlin. Fred Taylor had his 4 most productive scoring seasons during his 5 seasons under Coughlin. Coughlin did everything he could to get Fred into the end zone, he just came to realize that there were players on the roster that were much better and much more consistent in short yardage situations than Fred.

He had 11 rushing TDs in 41 games he played in during the 3 seasons between Mack and MJD. That comes out to around 1 TD every 4 games. That stinks for a starting RB. Fred got the large majority of the carries during those three seasons when he played one of which he got the most in his career. He just struggled getting those one or two yards needed in crucial situations.

Fred was fine in the red zone. It was situations where it was goal to go and he would be facing a goal line defense that he bogged down. He couldn't get the penetration nor the push that Mack and MJD could, nor could he go over the top like James Stewart could.

These guys had the knack for it that Taylor didn't.

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