(06-26-2022, 03:20 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(06-24-2022, 08:53 AM)Predator Wrote: Those 3 years just validate a short yardage and scoring issue he has had most of his career, that you attempted to blame on coaches pulling him, because he was the only option over that span and he didn't perform.

The coaches pulling him wasn't the cause of Fred having low TD numbers, it was the effect of Fred struggling in short yardage scoring situations which those three seasons, where there wasn't a viable replacement option for him, demonstrate.

Whether that will be something that keeps him out of the Hall of Fame I don't know, but I'm pretty sure his TD numbers compared to his peers is what kept him out of many pro bowls because scoring weighs heavily over yardage.

Averaging 5 TDs a year during an era where scoring 20+ was common and the all time records were being set and then reset by his peers, will probably be the biggest contributing factor if he never get voted in.

I blamed Coughlin for pulling him from red zone opportunities because he did. 

You contend it was because of Fred's lack of ability at the goal line  - and I disagree. 
Fred complained internally at the time about this (I heard it through someone that saw Fred every day in the bldg)  and it was discussed openly among fans and local media at the time as well.
I recall it clearly. 

I'll sort through the season totals of red zone snaps if I can find them and see if there's data to support this one way or the other.