(07-27-2022, 09:10 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(07-27-2022, 08:38 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Depends how you look at it honestly. I think (not basing this on actual stats, just what I remember personally) ...

Basing it on actual stats:

Most QBs who are not in the elite percentage of "under pressure pass completion" will dip between 10% and 20 % in their completion percentage while under pressure. 

For instance, Matt Ryan, who we now face twice a year in our division, saw his completion percentage drop by 11% when pressured in 2021 - and that actually placed him in the top ten as one of the best under pressure. 

There may only be 4 or 5 QBs on our schedule this season who will not suffer a 12% (and often much greater) reduction in completion percentage when pressured. 

That amount of incompletions will absolutely affect the scoreboard in most of those games.

Pressures are good, they are effective, and dismissing them is a fools errand.

Anecdotes about a former 1st round pick pass rusher turned journeyman rotational guy who has had 2 good seasons out of eight years in the league don't tell us anything about the effect pressures have on quarterbacks league wide.

Not sure why you only quoted part of my post but this is what I meant. 
Dante Fowler was the kind of guy to break through late and technically "get pressure" on the QB, but by the time he made it back there the ball was coming out and he had very little effect on the play. Where as on the other hand a good pass rusher getting a hurry who broke through the line explosively and rushed the qb to make a poor decision because of how quickly he got there. 

Both plays would count as a QB pressure statistically, but were completely different outcomes.

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(07-27-2022, 09:20 AM)Bullseye Wrote:

(07-26-2022, 02:28 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Personally I just want to see him use his physical attributes to dominate whomever he lines up against, the numbers don't matter too me as much this year. Let me see him put a tackle on the ground once or twice a game and i'll be content.

But how do you know if he's dominant if his numbers don't reflect dominance?  The occasional good play like putting an opposing T on the ground?

Trevor Lawrence certainly had the occasional good throw last year, but you seem to think he's on his way to being a bust if he isn't there already.

Why the double standard?

Why are mediocre stats by the occasional flash of talent good enough for Walker but not sufficient for Trevor Lawrence in your eyes?

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(07-26-2022, 08:40 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: https://twitter.com/PriscoCBS/status/155...TJQDJ3s0Ug

Sounds promising, but I temper my enthusiasm because they are not in pads yet.

I sure hope Walker can be a dominant edge rusher though.

I saw very little dominant plays from Trevor Lawrence last season, not to turn this thread into another debate on that subject. The only two plays Trevor made that I can think of that made me think "Wow that was amazing" was the botched snap, roll out touchdown in the back of the endzone and maybe that early TD to DJ Chark for 40+ yards. 

So in other words, no if Travon Walker has 3-5 amazing plays and is an absolute dud the rest of the season I wouldn't be happy.

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