(08-06-2022, 08:25 AM)Bullseye Wrote:

(08-05-2022, 08:59 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Dave got A Rob and Chark in his 7 years.  I think we can do better than that

If you buy the assumption that WRs are a dime a dozen, in theory we SHOULD be able to do better than that.

But consider:

1.  Caldwell also managed to get Hurns as an UDFA.  Hurns was better than any of the guys below looking at their overall careers and skill sets.

2.  In the 21 non Caldwell yerars of this franchise's history, we bever drafted ANY Pro bowl WRs.  We lucked out and got Jimmy Smith as a street free agent.  We got Keenan McCardell as a FA from Cleveland after that franchise imploded.  Outside of Caldwell, this franchise has not demonstrated ANY ability whatsoever to draft anything close to a stud WR.  The closest we've come was Justin Blackmon, and we know how spectacularly that backfired.  After him?  Ernest Wilford was the best we've done.  Soward?  Reggie Williams?  Matt Jones?!?  Bzzzt!  Example after example of draft day failure at the position.

3.  Throughout his entire career as a GM, including his SF days, Baalke has not proven able to identify/draft a stud WR.  In fact, he supposedly came from the Parcells/Belichick/Gerge Young tree.  If so, those guys have been unable to draft a good WR dating back to the 1980s.

Given this franchise's history, there is no reason for your confidence we can do better at the position.

I don't think they are a dime a dozen but it is one of the easiest positions to fix.  Just look at all the great WRs Dave passed on when he was GM.

1. I don't give Dave much credit for Hurns because he passed him up in every round tha year and just got lucky that nobody drafted him and that Hurns chose to come to Jax

2. Oh I know the history of this franchise and the WR position.  Just because we have been horrible at draftiing in that department before Dave got there doesn't make Dave any good.  Maybe you don't think we can do better than Dave but I do. 

3. What this franchise has done In the past is irrelevant to me, it's a new era.  Much more WRs are coming into the league making an impact and setting records as rookies, yards records, catch records etc.  Dave passed on so many great WRs when they were clearly BPA but he felt he had a bigger need at a different position so he went a different route.  I think we can do better than Dave and next year I think is the year we take a WR high,  In the first or 2nd

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(08-06-2022, 04:56 AM)Caldrac Wrote:

(07-29-2022, 11:45 AM)Caldrac Wrote: I am aiming high for him and Josh Allen this year. I told 1010XL yesterday I want to see Allen hit 14.5. Which would tie the franchise mark and I said I would be happy if Walker hit 9.5 sacks as a rookie this year. Devin Lloyd getting 7.5 as well. I know that's 30 sacks between three players but I fully expect the defense to be the bread winner this year and shutting down the ground game. Couple that in with a division where they rely heavily on the ground game and you've got QB's like Matt Ryan twice a year to feast on?

I think it's possible. Especially if this offense sneaks up on teams early and gets a jump up on the scoreboard. We have a Superbowl winning coach, a competent roster on paper for now, a really good looking draft class now from last year and so far this year it appears promising. Expectations need to be high. [BLEEP] all of this shooting for just below average or average. I expect this team to make some waves this year and I expect them to start making serious runs and holding real contention in this AFC South for the next decade.

Bad teams can get really, really good really, really fast with the right coaching staff and some lucky breaks here and there. I don't see why Jacksonville can't fall into this same trend and category in 2022.

Still aiming high on my end. I know it was early but Walker got off to a great start. Key was also looking pretty good. I think once you see Lloyd, Oluokun, Fatukasi & Cisco out there in the line-up with guys like Walker, Allen & Key? It's very possible they hit these marks above. We'll see how the first string offense looks this Friday coming up. Hopefully they also get off to a fast start and hit pay dirt early. I don't expect anything gaudy but I would like to see an even distribution in the passing game where we nickel and dime it into the endzone.

I think they get 14.5 easily imo.  I think Allen gets  career high with 12 and Walker gers 7

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