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The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago


(08-13-2022, 06:20 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-12-2022, 08:18 PM)jj82284 Wrote: Actually no.  He can wave his hand.


It's not like the president has unilateralauthority to determine classification status.  

This is actually an even greater example of media power than state authority.  They are going to push thus blatantly false narrative right through  grand jury.  

It'd be beautiful if it wasn't nihilistic orwelian propaganda.

If what you say is true, then it would be impossible to ever prosecute a former President for taking classified documents out of the White House, because he could just claim he declassified them.  This would give any former President the power to freely publish any of our national secrets.  Think that through.  Joe Biden loses the next election and decides to declassify the plans to all our latest weapons systems and send them to the Chinese.  According to you, he could do that with impunity.  

There is a process that is normally followed.  

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-classified-records/

Trump's defenders claim these documents were declassified, but they just failed to mark them "declassified" which is part of the normal procedure.  I would be interested to see what is in these documents.  That shouldn't be a problem, since they have supposedly been declassified, right?  It would also be interesting to see what evidence he has that he did declassify them, and why he thought it was okay to declassify them.  One of them was marked at the highest level of classification.  I wonder what was in that one, and why Trump thought it was okay to declassify it and take it to Mar-A-Lago.

He doesn't have to claim anything, the President can and does declassify by action alone. There's no ceremony, no incantation, no journal entry...nothing. The Executive has that right and authority and Biden should be fighting this not instigating it.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-08-2022, 08:58 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-08-2022, 09:28 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-08-2022, 10:45 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jag88 - 08-08-2022, 11:38 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-08-2022, 11:59 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jag88 - 08-09-2022, 12:37 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-09-2022, 04:22 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-09-2022, 07:50 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-09-2022, 07:27 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-09-2022, 09:17 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by MarleyJag - 08-09-2022, 09:26 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 09:40 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by MarleyJag - 08-09-2022, 09:46 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 09:51 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by MarleyJag - 08-09-2022, 10:23 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 10:26 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Cleatwood - 08-09-2022, 10:03 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-09-2022, 10:01 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-09-2022, 10:14 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 10:20 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-09-2022, 10:57 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-09-2022, 12:09 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 12:29 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by EricC85 - 08-09-2022, 12:26 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 12:42 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 01:02 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Caldrac - 08-09-2022, 04:42 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-09-2022, 06:07 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-10-2022, 08:26 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-10-2022, 08:40 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 06:16 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 08-09-2022, 06:45 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-09-2022, 09:37 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-10-2022, 08:48 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-10-2022, 09:19 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-10-2022, 11:44 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-10-2022, 12:13 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 06:00 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 07:38 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 08:00 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 10:54 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-11-2022, 11:36 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 12:03 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-11-2022, 01:23 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 01:41 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 10:14 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 05:32 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 08-11-2022, 06:29 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by NH3 - 08-11-2022, 06:57 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 08:02 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Eric1 - 08-11-2022, 11:05 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-12-2022, 06:09 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-12-2022, 01:28 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Caldrac - 08-12-2022, 07:13 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Caldrac - 08-12-2022, 08:02 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Caldrac - 08-12-2022, 09:23 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-12-2022, 08:35 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-12-2022, 09:00 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-12-2022, 09:17 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by EricC85 - 08-12-2022, 01:30 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-12-2022, 08:18 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by flsprtsgod - 08-13-2022, 07:05 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-13-2022, 07:54 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Eric1 - 08-12-2022, 06:29 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-12-2022, 05:07 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 08-12-2022, 08:36 PM
The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-12-2022, 11:50 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-13-2022, 03:00 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-13-2022, 07:14 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-13-2022, 07:33 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-13-2022, 07:51 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-13-2022, 08:23 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-13-2022, 12:48 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-14-2022, 07:58 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-14-2022, 03:26 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-14-2022, 03:41 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-14-2022, 03:56 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by copycat - 08-14-2022, 05:49 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-14-2022, 06:17 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-14-2022, 08:32 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-15-2022, 07:18 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-15-2022, 09:46 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-15-2022, 09:56 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-15-2022, 04:12 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-15-2022, 10:29 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-15-2022, 11:07 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-15-2022, 11:11 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-15-2022, 04:18 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-15-2022, 09:20 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 08-15-2022, 07:40 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-15-2022, 11:53 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-15-2022, 04:19 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-16-2022, 01:06 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-16-2022, 06:22 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-18-2022, 05:39 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-18-2022, 11:06 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-18-2022, 11:13 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-18-2022, 11:29 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-18-2022, 04:24 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-18-2022, 09:01 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-18-2022, 09:16 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-19-2022, 07:23 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-19-2022, 08:23 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 08-19-2022, 08:44 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-19-2022, 09:53 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 08-19-2022, 11:56 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Ronster - 08-19-2022, 12:13 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-19-2022, 01:29 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 08-19-2022, 02:08 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-19-2022, 02:23 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Ronster - 08-19-2022, 03:37 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 08-19-2022, 04:04 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-19-2022, 09:34 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-19-2022, 10:09 AM
The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-19-2022, 07:55 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-21-2022, 06:38 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-22-2022, 09:45 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-22-2022, 10:43 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-22-2022, 11:41 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-22-2022, 12:50 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Cleatwood - 08-22-2022, 01:06 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-22-2022, 03:40 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-24-2022, 11:41 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-22-2022, 01:48 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Cleatwood - 08-22-2022, 03:14 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Cleatwood - 08-22-2022, 03:35 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-23-2022, 12:57 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-23-2022, 05:39 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-23-2022, 06:09 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-23-2022, 10:41 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-26-2022, 12:39 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-26-2022, 03:56 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 08-26-2022, 07:46 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-27-2022, 10:51 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-28-2022, 04:41 PM
The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-30-2022, 08:24 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-30-2022, 09:06 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Ronster - 08-30-2022, 09:47 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by p_rushing - 08-30-2022, 06:42 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-30-2022, 07:19 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by p_rushing - 08-30-2022, 09:00 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 08-31-2022, 12:13 PM
RE: Copycat - by The Real Marty - 08-31-2022, 12:23 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-31-2022, 10:51 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Jaguarmeister - 09-02-2022, 08:33 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-31-2022, 06:05 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 09-01-2022, 07:35 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 09-02-2022, 10:49 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-03-2022, 09:19 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 09-03-2022, 11:25 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 09-02-2022, 05:55 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 09-02-2022, 10:43 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 09-04-2022, 03:13 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 09-05-2022, 05:11 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-06-2022, 05:19 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 09-05-2022, 10:21 PM
The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 09-07-2022, 12:19 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 09-07-2022, 02:39 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 09-07-2022, 06:28 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 09-07-2022, 07:08 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-07-2022, 10:01 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Cleatwood - 09-07-2022, 10:02 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 09-07-2022, 12:10 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 09-07-2022, 07:27 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 09-08-2022, 04:07 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 09-19-2022, 10:50 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jagwired - 09-19-2022, 02:36 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 09-19-2022, 08:07 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 09-19-2022, 09:13 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 09-19-2022, 10:14 PM



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