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The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago


(08-19-2022, 07:33 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-18-2022, 08:59 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: As a reminder, there's already precedent that the President and only the President is the sole authority to determine what are his personal records and no court, government agency or even the Congress can say otherwise. This whole event is so far over the line that the heads of the DOJ and FBI along with many of their subordinates should be arrested and tried.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/...uld-impact


"Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President's term and in his sole discretion," Jackson wrote in her March 2012 decision, which was never appealed.

"Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of  records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records," she added.

So if former President Bernie Sanders decided that the top-secret list of all our CIA agents in China should be his personal record, and he wanted to keep it at his house after he left office, that would be okay?  

And if former President Elizabeth Warren decided that certain top-secret documents dealing with nuclear weapons technology were so interesting that she wanted to keep them when she left office, that would be okay, too?  

Is that what that case that you cited said?

Yes, that's the ruling. The President has sole discretion. If there's a dispute the National Archives has recourse, but as a civil matter an armed raid by the FBI is not in the prescription for resolution. That's why this is egregious, because it was done specifically to discredit Trump not because he did anything wrong.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-08-2022, 08:58 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-08-2022, 09:28 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-08-2022, 10:45 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jag88 - 08-08-2022, 11:38 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-08-2022, 11:59 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jag88 - 08-09-2022, 12:37 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-09-2022, 04:22 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-09-2022, 07:50 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-09-2022, 07:27 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-09-2022, 09:17 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by MarleyJag - 08-09-2022, 09:26 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 09:40 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by MarleyJag - 08-09-2022, 09:46 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 09:51 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by MarleyJag - 08-09-2022, 10:23 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 10:26 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Cleatwood - 08-09-2022, 10:03 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-09-2022, 10:01 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-09-2022, 10:14 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 10:20 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-09-2022, 10:57 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-09-2022, 12:09 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 12:29 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by EricC85 - 08-09-2022, 12:26 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 12:42 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 01:02 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Caldrac - 08-09-2022, 04:42 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-09-2022, 06:07 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-10-2022, 08:26 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-10-2022, 08:40 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-09-2022, 06:16 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 08-09-2022, 06:45 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-09-2022, 09:37 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-10-2022, 08:48 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-10-2022, 09:19 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-10-2022, 11:44 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-10-2022, 12:13 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 06:00 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 07:38 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 08:00 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 10:54 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-11-2022, 11:36 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 12:03 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-11-2022, 01:23 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 01:41 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 10:14 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 05:32 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 08-11-2022, 06:29 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by NH3 - 08-11-2022, 06:57 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-11-2022, 08:02 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Eric1 - 08-11-2022, 11:05 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-12-2022, 06:09 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-12-2022, 01:28 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Caldrac - 08-12-2022, 07:13 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Caldrac - 08-12-2022, 08:02 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Caldrac - 08-12-2022, 09:23 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-12-2022, 08:35 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-12-2022, 09:00 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-12-2022, 09:17 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by EricC85 - 08-12-2022, 01:30 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-12-2022, 08:18 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-13-2022, 07:54 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Eric1 - 08-12-2022, 06:29 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-12-2022, 05:07 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 08-12-2022, 08:36 PM
The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-12-2022, 11:50 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-13-2022, 03:00 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-13-2022, 07:14 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-13-2022, 07:33 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-13-2022, 07:51 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-13-2022, 08:23 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-13-2022, 12:48 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-14-2022, 07:58 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-14-2022, 03:26 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-14-2022, 03:41 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-14-2022, 03:56 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by copycat - 08-14-2022, 05:49 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-14-2022, 06:17 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-14-2022, 08:32 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-15-2022, 07:18 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-15-2022, 09:46 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-15-2022, 09:56 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-15-2022, 04:12 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-15-2022, 10:29 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-15-2022, 11:07 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-15-2022, 11:11 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by jj82284 - 08-15-2022, 04:18 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-15-2022, 09:20 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 08-15-2022, 07:40 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-15-2022, 11:53 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-15-2022, 04:19 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-16-2022, 01:06 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-16-2022, 06:22 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-18-2022, 05:39 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-18-2022, 11:06 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-18-2022, 11:13 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-18-2022, 11:29 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-18-2022, 04:24 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-18-2022, 09:01 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-18-2022, 09:16 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-19-2022, 07:23 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by flsprtsgod - 08-19-2022, 08:11 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-19-2022, 08:23 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 08-19-2022, 08:44 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-19-2022, 09:53 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 08-19-2022, 11:56 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Ronster - 08-19-2022, 12:13 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-19-2022, 01:29 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 08-19-2022, 02:08 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-19-2022, 02:23 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Ronster - 08-19-2022, 03:37 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 08-19-2022, 04:04 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-19-2022, 09:34 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-19-2022, 10:09 AM
The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-19-2022, 07:55 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-21-2022, 06:38 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-22-2022, 09:45 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-22-2022, 10:43 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-22-2022, 11:41 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-22-2022, 12:50 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Cleatwood - 08-22-2022, 01:06 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-22-2022, 03:40 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-24-2022, 11:41 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-22-2022, 01:48 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Cleatwood - 08-22-2022, 03:14 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Cleatwood - 08-22-2022, 03:35 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-23-2022, 12:57 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-23-2022, 05:39 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-23-2022, 06:09 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-23-2022, 10:41 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-26-2022, 12:39 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-26-2022, 03:56 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 08-26-2022, 07:46 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-27-2022, 10:51 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 08-28-2022, 04:41 PM
The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 08-30-2022, 08:24 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-30-2022, 09:06 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Ronster - 08-30-2022, 09:47 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by p_rushing - 08-30-2022, 06:42 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-30-2022, 07:19 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by p_rushing - 08-30-2022, 09:00 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 08-31-2022, 12:13 PM
RE: Copycat - by The Real Marty - 08-31-2022, 12:23 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-31-2022, 10:51 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Jaguarmeister - 09-02-2022, 08:33 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 08-31-2022, 06:05 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 09-01-2022, 07:35 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 09-02-2022, 10:49 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-03-2022, 09:19 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 09-03-2022, 11:25 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 09-02-2022, 05:55 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 09-02-2022, 10:43 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 09-04-2022, 03:13 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 09-05-2022, 05:11 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-06-2022, 05:19 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 09-05-2022, 10:21 PM
The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 09-07-2022, 12:19 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 09-07-2022, 02:39 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 09-07-2022, 06:28 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jags - 09-07-2022, 07:08 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-07-2022, 10:01 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Cleatwood - 09-07-2022, 10:02 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 09-07-2022, 12:10 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 09-07-2022, 07:27 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by p_rushing - 09-08-2022, 04:07 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 09-19-2022, 10:50 AM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Jagwired - 09-19-2022, 02:36 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 09-19-2022, 08:07 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by Ronster - 09-19-2022, 09:13 PM
RE: The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago - by mikesez - 09-19-2022, 10:14 PM



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