(09-01-2022, 07:25 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(09-01-2022, 04:16 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: It's still a concern. Like Maher said, "Either Ohio is oppressing them, or California is creating them." I think if it was destigmatized, you'd see a small increase, but not at the rates we are seeing it... especially in liberal areas.

To be frank California seems to be celebrating it more than just destigmatizing it.  Celebrating it causes people who have generalized queer feelings to call themselves trans so they can be celebrated too.

I've had private conversations with people who have these issues.  They admit that they had trouble differentiating between if they are just nonconforming, or gay, or bi, or trans, until later in life.  But a lot of that is silenced by the pride organizations, who are still in the "born this way" mentality, so they can't admit that any of this stuff could be elastic.  

The people I've spoken to also point out to me that psychologists who are trained in these issues try to discourage people from identifying as trans for exactly these reasons.  They know that trans is being called brave and glamorous so the therapists make them think through all the other possibilities because trans really is the hardest one to deal with for everybody.  For these psychologists it's as if a bunch of patients come in with shortness of breath but they all want to skip over allergy medication and go right to getting a lung transplant.

If 'born this way' was true, then thousands or <<fill in your personal belief here >> of years of genetic natural selection would have eventually rendered it extinct. We know there were homosexuals thousands of years ago from many historical sources. It would have been biologically culled out by now, assuming that no heterosexual behavior was co-opted, which we know of course, NEVER happens. And if I were homosexual, I would consider making a 'choice' more honorable anyway. Born this way just sounds like an embarrassed excuse.

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