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The pluses and minuses of week 1

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(09-11-2022, 08:47 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: O line pass pro… way to leaky, Bartch not good… center did ok but was a rookie at times. Edge pressure from both tackles sporadically throughout game. Their twisting and stunts hurt us and they were still missing quite a few of their better players up front . Overall not good enough.

Overall pas rush… way too much time for weintz for most of the game.. looked nothing like the preseason very disappointing 

I think this was the biggest takeaway from the whole game.  We lost both lines of scrimmage.  The run blocking wasn't bad at times but the pass protection was awful.  They routinely got pressure rushing just 4.  And routinely got pressure up the middle which makes it significantly harder.  I really liked Bartch's story and have been rooting for him but he got whipped!  Huge liability.  I kept waiting for them to bench him for someone else.  And then defensively we never got much of a pass rush going.  Even when we blitzed they would often pick it up (ie the last touchdown to put washington up for good).  Wentz had far too much time to throw.  I don't know if true or not but I have this vague recollection of hearing some analyst saying you want to make Wentz beat you from teh pocket as opposed to letting him scramble and make plays ad lib.  Clearly that didn't work for us today.  And if there was some plan to keep him in the pocket you still need to get pressure on the guy.  To compare the two QBs today would be laughable considering how easy we made it for Wentz and how hard it was for Lawrence.  Games are won up front and we lost both sides of it.

Secondary for the most part was not very good.  Too many missed tackles and blown coverage.  Obviously not getting pressure on the QB makes it much harder for them but it felt like a sloppy effort. Really disappointing as there was so much hype about how good they'd be.  

Offense feels like it could be pretty good.  Falling behind so quickly so early it felt like it got our offense a little out of rhythm.  Not sure what the run / pass ratio was in the first half but it felt way too heavy pass.  Both James and Etienne need to touch the ball a lot more.  Still don't know that we have that big play home run WR on the roster that defenses need to fear but there are enough above average guys which should make it difficult for defenses to match up against.

As far as Trevor, admittedly a fairly low bar considering how rough last year was, but I thought he looked significantly better than last season.  Other than that missed throw to Etienne which was obviously a huge miss, for the most part I thought he made all the throws you'd expect him to.  I didn't think there were that many gimme's that he missed.  The one major criticism I have though is how he plays off script.  He is really good when he gets blocking but in the NFL you've got to make plays when things break down and you're under duress.  I read someone on here (maybe this thread) say he watches the rush too much.  Now I don't agree with that.  I think he still does a good job of looking down the field wanting to make the play.  But you can tell the rush bothers him.  His uneasiness is clear to see and it looks like he begins to rush.  Almost jittery at times.  And late in the game the announcer made a comment about his internal clock was too slow on a sack.  Perhaps true on that play but sometimes it feels like he has the opposite problem where his internal clock speeds up and is in such a rush to get the ball out.  Doesnt set his feet, rushes a throw, and it just looks ugly.  You got to make off balance throws in the league with rushers all around you.  Clearly not a strength of his yet.  Some people seem to have that innate ability to dance around and make plays (ie Minshew).  But I do think with more experience Lawrence will get better in that aspect.  Just learning to be more comfortable in those situations.

While I am bummed because it felt like as though we stole a victory from the jaws of defeat (only to have it stolen back from us), it did feel as though we deserved to lose going back to initial comments about losing both lines of scrimmage.  So not overally upset we lost.  We got outplayed.  But it didnt feel like how many of the losses from the last few years have felt.  Still feels like we have much more potential.  And it's a long season.  Feels like we'll get a lot better.


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The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-11-2022, 04:48 PM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by Eric1 - 09-11-2022, 04:52 PM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by rfc17 - 09-11-2022, 09:40 PM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by copycat - 09-11-2022, 09:10 PM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by Eric1 - 09-12-2022, 01:39 AM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by scottyg - 09-12-2022, 10:03 AM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by Mikey - 09-12-2022, 08:52 AM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by Mikey - 09-12-2022, 08:35 AM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by Mikey - 09-12-2022, 09:38 AM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by NH3 - 09-12-2022, 05:35 AM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by Holger - 09-12-2022, 07:13 AM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by jaglyn - 09-12-2022, 08:09 AM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by Eric1 - 09-12-2022, 05:24 PM
RE: The pluses and minuses of week 1 - by rfc17 - 09-12-2022, 09:00 PM



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