(09-13-2022, 10:26 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:

(09-13-2022, 08:35 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: An interesting aside, analytics seem to put Trevor's performance Sunday in the average range (14-15th best QB performance in the league according to football outsiders https://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-...ay-records) in his first game in a new system with a bunch of new players around him and having suffered the highest amount of 4-man pressure (which means the secondary still had everyone back in coverage) in the league. Which fits what my eyes told me, not elite, but not the kind of, "we have to hide the QB," disasters we've repeatedly seen here over the years.

I know the bib brigade is always ready to press the eject button, but Trevor has already shown a lot. Anyone who isn't still onboard to see more deserves to go back in time 10 years, A Christmas Carol style, and relive the Jaguar's Gabbert and Bortles years to understand what it means to be hopeless as a QB.

This for me is one area we are really letting him down on. Unless the QB is holding the ball for 8-9 seconds, no way should a 4 man rush get home and with us it's usually 2 or 3 guys getting pressure. It's a real nightmare for a QB as D's are hoping you'll throw it up so you need to be smart but when your scrambling from 4 man pressure all you can really do is take the sack or throw it away. If teams constantly get home with 4 man pressure it's going to be a long Sunday.

We have a QB that can punish teams that give him too much time and can throw a deep ball. Also running the ball will help there but it's something the Oline needs to get much better at.

Realistically, it is more like 4.5 or five seconds that is kind-of the max limit to hold the ball. In fact, 4 seconds is long enough to be labeled a "coverage sack" at times.

We have receivers that can be coming out of their breaks (ready for the ball) on intermediate routes in under 3 seconds.

Trevor was getting pressure in under 3 seconds way too often on Sunday, sometimes in under 2.
Just for perspective's sake, I just pulled up the replay and timed the first two pressures int he first drive.
The first (given up by Scherff) was 2.85 seconds, and the next, later in that drive (given up by Fortner and Bartch) was 2.75 seconds.  For those keeping score, the first was a penalty on the defense giving us a first down again, and the second was a completion for a first down. 

The point being that pressure often comes quickly with this OL.

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