(09-15-2022, 08:43 AM)KingIngram052787 Wrote:

(09-15-2022, 08:36 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Give and take for me. Lawrence needs to play better. However. If we're looking at it on strictly a week-to-week basis? It's 60/40 for me in that loss in Washington. 60 on the offensive line play & the play calling.

Lawrence overthrew Etienne on the opening drive. Fine. Noted. Etienne returned the favor by dropping an easy TD pass on a critical 4th and goal. That's a wash for me.

Lawrence didn't put enough air on the football to lead Kirk on that big strike. Fine. Noted. His offensive line allowed him to take 10 hits, 2 - 3 sacks and he was one of the most pressured QB's of week one. Maybe fix that up and he'll be more confident making his throws from the pocket.

This also falls back on coaching. 42 pass attempts Vs. 15 carries on the ground for two of your most explosive and game changing players on the entire football team. That's not going to work. Even more dumbfounding when you look at how damn successful those 15 carries were combined. When you find a weakness? You exploit it until they stop it or you get them on their toes and throw a change up at them when they think you're fixing to run it right at them again.

It is what it is. But call a spade a spade.

I agree with much of what you're saying, but disagree with the play calling take.  The offense was in position several times and couldn't not execute, specifically the issues you cited above.  The play calling was fine considering they were in position to take control of the game but just didn't execute properly.

Trevor has only played 18 games in his career and has already had 3 head coaches.  Last year was such a disaster I'll give him a bit of a pass the first half of this year since he's learning a new system and playing with almost all new players.  But, ultimately he needs to get better if we want to win football games.  Everything relies on the QB these days to sustain long term success.

(09-15-2022, 08:50 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: This thread should ultimately just merge with the Trevor Lawrence discussion thread but I can't disagree with Pete or Tony.

Does Trevor need to play better? Yea.... So do a lot of players on this team. It's week 1 man. Relax. I thought the offense moved the ball well but struggled in the red zone which is very much like the pre season. Can't blame the playcalling when they were legit moving the ball extremely well. Only 1 3 and out. ETN catches that TD or Zay makes a play on either of his end zone attempts or Trevor hits ETN on the wheel and this game is over.

I also agree with Pete when he says "Jags fans.... don't be this stupid. Can't call him a bust." I have absolutely zero worries about Trevor.

I get the "Well, it was working". However, it wasn't working well enough in my opinion. Otherwise we're not having this conversation now. Consider this as well. 

Unless that offensive line magically gets better and gets better fast? Are you really that comfortable and confident that Lawrence will survive this year dropping back forty or more times per game given what we saw in Washington?

The schedule only gets tough from here gentleman. This offensive line got absolutely handled by a defensive line that did not even have it's premier pass rusher. What do you think is going to happen in L.A on the 25th against the Chargers? With Bosa and Mack out there?

This can get ugly and ugly fast if Pederson thinks he can get away with Lawrence dropping back forty or more times per game. I get it. It's early. Same people were thinking that in Dallas and look at what happened with Prescott already.

I am a football fan. But I am a realist first.

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