(09-19-2022, 11:42 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(09-19-2022, 11:26 AM)mikesez Wrote: It's an interesting metaphor. But the man offering the prize is all of us.  We have a decent lifestyle with relatively low crime and relatively good infrastructure.  On top of that, we have a labor shortage, at least lately. That's the prize. Perhaps none of us are overtly offering it, but we don't have to.  It's there. They can see it and they want it. As for the wire rope, what is the suggestion? Make it safer so less people die? Or more dangerous so less people try? If you make it safer, probably more people try and overall the same number die.  If you make it more dangerous, probably less people try but the same number die.

No, my solution is to prevent people from sneaking over the border.  Either build a wall, or hire more border patrol, or both.  We are tempting people to make that effort because they see that it is possible.  And a lot of them die in the process.  If we could actually stop people from crossing the border, then fewer people will try it and fewer people will die in the attempt.  But right now, so many people are succeeding in getting into the country illegally, people see that and they decide they can do it, too.  

And that's what is immoral about not sealing the border.  A good argument can be made that the people who refuse to deal with this have blood on their hands.

I’m going to utter #evilorangeman’s name, but according to Jared Kushner, Trump’s plan was to build the wall with a ‘big beautiful gate’ to welcome and process immigrants. But the left won and this is what we have; dead immigrants, dead Americans and the infiltration of undesirables and terrorists into our country.

Good order and discipline is racist, doncha know.

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