(09-22-2022, 07:50 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(09-22-2022, 05:46 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: Why are you assuming that black people are necessarily poor today because of slavery?  What if thier parents were successful from the 60's to now and they just chose to become poor slackers or wanna-be hip hop thug/artists?  Do they also qualify?

I've said in multiple posts that slavery is not the proximate cause of the disparities we see today.  Redlining had the bigger impact.

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(09-22-2022, 06:51 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: They may have been here during it but that doesn't mean they had anything to do with it. My people aren't even from the south. Not even close. 

I owe no one. Period.

If you're white and if your parents gave you any money to help you get started as an adult, you probably didn't have "anything to do with it" but they and you did benefit.

My parents didn't give me anything except a "good luck" on my way to boot camp. 

No matter how you try to spin it you're not going to convince me that I owe anyone reparations or anything else you want to call it. 

Do you know why Habitat for Humanity requires homebuyers to work for their house via sweat equity? They want the homebuyer to be invested in their house before they even move in. HFH is not going to just give people a house. We had a lady who was about a quarter of the way through her sweat equity when she called it quits. She didn't want to work for her house, she wanted them to give it to her. 

If people aren't willing to make an effort to get whatever they need be it a place to live, an education, a job/career, etc., they aren't going to have anything. All of the government programs that have been in place for decades have done nothing to get folks out of poverty, off of food stamps, out of public housing because they don't give people the incentive to do better.

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