(10-02-2022, 05:07 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:

(10-02-2022, 05:05 PM)Eric1 Wrote: It wasn't even so much that he was hit on those fumbles. The defenders made the play and slapped it out of his hands both times. They targeted the ball just like they should.

Right. Very few guys have hand strength to hold on that.

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(10-02-2022, 05:05 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: Your reply says different.

If you hyenas had any emotional control then you would know I was pro-TL when he was drafted.  I noted the criticism of him out of Clemson but expected him to develop out of them.  Instead, as last season progressed it looked like he was settling into them. In the most tepid posts possible, I merely pointed out that he was making some fundamental mistakes and boy did you mob not sit well with that.  No mature conversations for you.  Ok, well I see how this forum works.


Keep an eye on this:

* Cannot pre-snap read the defense.  He is fooled by basic stunts.  When was the last time we say TL adjust the formation at the line?  He only runs the play called, as it is called.  Short passes work against this for a time, but DCs adjust.

* Throws late, when a receiver is already open, rather than in anticipation of the play.  This is a direct contributor to drop rate since it gives DBs time to adjust and, counter intuitively in the NFL but not in D1, increases pressure on the receiver.

* Has zero pocket skills.  He runs when he should stay.  He stays when the blitz is on and he should dump or run.

* His fit are only set when he has an utterly clean pocket.  If there’s any pressure at all he’s dancing on his toes like a ballerina and tries to make hero throws with all arm, no body.


These are FUNDAMENTAL quarterback skills in the NFL.  You can adjust play calling for a while but opponents quickly learn which plays are in your range.  TL must learn these skills and fast or his will be a backup by the end of next season.  Judge for yourself.  If you stop being emotional jackals hunting in packs any person who has a mild criticism then you won’t attract trollish behaviour.  But trolls are all you get because you behave like children.

He is not perfect at all, but to claim he has never read a pre-snap defense correct or throw a guy open, or has zero pocket skills is just a biased interpretation. There have been plays he  has done every one of those things this season and even at times last year. 

Of course he is not at the level of a MVP quaterback, and inconsistent at them. But virtually all pseudo-rookie QB's are inconsistent at them.