(10-06-2022, 07:31 PM)Big Dougy P Wrote:

(10-06-2022, 02:21 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Finally watched most of the iggles matchup.

Trevor had a few bad throws.
He lost the ball too many times.
Most of his mistakes came under duress from poor OL play.

The fix is twofold.

The line needs to give him a cleaner pocket more frequently than they appear able to -
AND
Trevor needs to grow into maker fewer mistakes under pressure.

It's a veteran savvy thing for Trevor to figure out, and I don't expect tons of it from him at 22/23 years old. But down the stretch of this year, and the transition to the next season are good times for him to develop the skill of knowing exactly when to throw it away or hit the deck.

I also believe not running the ball more was a mistake - as were the types of runs dialed up in the first half.
May have tried to be a bit too cute IMO. No need for all that with a back like Robinson on early downs.
Off tackles plays and outside stretches work quite well for him without all the bells and whistles, RPO, or draw plays.

Well the game changing fumble was the one where he dropped the ball whilst running with nobody around him on 4th and 3.
You could label any of the turnovers as "game changing." You could label defensive errors that permitted scoring "game changing" - slippery slope. Mistakes are mistakes, some more harmful than others,  but pinning the game on one mistake is pretty flimsy. Also - I clearly said "MOST"   -  Plenty of unforced errors in that game. 
This was the play that really turned the game around. (also prior to this play he missed Agnew in the Endzone for what would have been an easy touchdown if he had thrown it with accuracy. Another one of his 4 fumbles was him dropping a snap.
The miss to Agnew was under quick pressure and thrown early on a double move. The odds of completing that pass to that route when hurried have got to be miniscule. I hope we see Trevor develop chemistry with some receivers over the next few years that would allow a play like that to still connect under pressure, but we aren't there yet. Silly to lay that at the QB's feet in my personal opinion.  

The other two fumbles were strips, fair enough. But 3 of the 5 turnovers were absolutely 100% on him, especially the first fumble and the INT that he just made a really poor decision in throwing late. 
Blame away, no one is stopping you. He made mistakes. I'll temper my blame with conditions, and play calling a bit, but that's just me. 

Overall I think mental errors on his part was the reason we lost this game, our defense wasn't shut down by any means but considering how many times we gave the Eagles the ball it's amazing that our defense was able to keep us in the game until the end. In the same way that the rain could be considered the reason Trevor had issues, I think the same could be said for the defense as i'm sure it's hard to keep your balance and go full speed whilst running on a wet surface. 

I think we will be fine, but honestly we're 3-1 right now if Trevor just picks up that 4th and 3 rather than dropping the ball randomly while running. More than likely we go up 17-0 at that point, or 21-0 if he had hit Agnew wide open in the endzone prior to the fumble. I could make a solid argument as to why we should be undefeated right now if you take away 4 instances of shooting ourselves int he foot. I bet 4 or 5 other teams can as well. Mistakes are part of the game and it's often the team with more mistakes coming up short. Maybe as the season wears on, we'll begin doing that less often. Fingers crossed. 

Also I highly agree with everyone that playcalling was suspect, we have a top 10 RB and we kept putting the ball in Trevors hands after he fumbled multiple times. But something I think that has gone over everyones heads is that JR25 also fumbled early in the game, Kirk fell on it tho so it didn't change anything. Still think we could have ran more.