(10-15-2022, 01:42 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(10-15-2022, 01:38 PM)MyKids Wrote: Justin Fields still sucks. Trubisky sucks. All those that you have listed are not franchise QBs or even remotely close to top 5 QBs in the league besides Josh Allen.

You're argument is invalid.

You disagreed that many rookie QBs do not hit the ground running in the current era. This list shows you don't know what you are talking about. Attempting to move the goalposts will not help you appear less stupid. 
The majority of 1st round QBs struggle early or fail completely. 
90's
2000's 
and NOW
You were wrong. 
Get over it.

My argument was if the QB is good they do hit the ground running regardless of being a rookie or not, here are examples: Andrew Luck, Lamar Jackson, DeShaun Watson, Herbert, Russel Wilson, etc. These came to the league and "hit the ground running" and had consistency at the QB position for YEARS.....

, Josh Allen was the only franchise QB that struggled, than three years later finally put it together. 

I would love to add Mahomes to that list, but could not make the list because he did not even start his rookie year.

I'm not moving the goalpost, feel free to scroll down to page #49 to see my original post on this matter. So yes your argument of mentioning those QBs in flawed because none of those QBs "are hitting the ground running" those QBs are STILL bandaids to their respectable teams.


If you mean by will Lawrence improve in his third year versus his first and second? Sure. But that doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be mentioned by those other guys I've mentioned.  

As it remains you are wrong in this current era. You were right on the earlier era of QBs. Typically if a QB is going to be very good they hit the ground running soon as they hit the league, evidence by these guys I've mentioned.

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