(10-31-2022, 12:51 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(10-31-2022, 12:37 PM)Jagwired Wrote: To say there is no progress on this teams competitiveness is ludicrous and based on zero reality. The potential has displayed itself before your eyes in two games this season. The other games of course close, one possession games generally decided in the last minutes of the game. Finally, of course more talent is required, it always is. That's Captain obvious [BLEEP].

(10-31-2022, 12:40 PM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: Has there ever been a year where we haven't said "We are making progress", or "Next year we'll be ready"?
Do we really, honestly, truly believe this year is actually different? You all are huffing copium.

Jagwired. There was progress. It's however, plateaued over the last five games. It's also the same exact scenario presenting itself. So, while there was growth, it's now concerning that it's been stunted and there's been really no change in that at all. Whether you want to point the finger at Lawrence for the turning the football over or missing TD opportunities. Or, whether you want to point the finger at the defense for falling to pieces in the 4th quarter of play. It's both at the end of the day. 

Jaguars Warrior. Yes, there was a year. It was actually in 2016, which turned into 2017. You can also go back and cite this pattern with Jack Del Rio. Which is where I think Doug Pederson can turn this franchise into for at least a nice little four year stretch if they can get the right players around Lawrence to make his offense fire on all cylinders. This year has been different. The growth has been painful to watch. 

It's plateaued though. They might win a few more games. The most likely contest would be the Raiders and Lions. Those are potentially games that are going to determine who ends up having the first overall pick in next year's draft. Could make or break a lot of the fanbase's loyalists and diehards going towards the end of this year.

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(10-31-2022, 12:51 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: I honestly don't know why some of this board is still fans of this team.

If you're fandom is completely invested in your team winning a championship, then you are in the wrong business. That should not be the sole metric you use. As you are more likely to be let down for the vast majority of years of being fan of that team for like 95%+ of teams in the 4 major sports.

What? What's the [BLEEP] point of watching a team lose? What's the point of investing time, money and effort to getting to these games or watching these games if they're just going to continue to lose? 

You think these coaches, players and front office people get together every year and the goal is to be a [BLEEP] box football team? Holy [BLEEP]. You must be one of those participation trophy kids all grown up. My god. Get the [BLEEP] out of here with that nonsense. Please. 

So we went from the worst offense and defense in the League and losing every game by at least 14 points to losing our games by a few points in one single offseason. Maybe we have plateaued for this year, but we made a tremendous step forward before we did. I just don't know why you expected more, it's irrational to think that a team with 4 wins in 2 full seasons is suddenly gonna start winning every week. Hell, it was irrational to think they'd be in these games at all based on our history. The games are what they're supposed to be now, fun and meaningful. Does it suck to lose? Hell yes. Does it suck to know the game is over before the first play like all of last year? Much, much worse.

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