(11-01-2022, 09:40 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Did I post anything in favor of the Khazar hypothesis? That link I posted explicitly disproves that. You don't actually understand what you talk about half the time (and that's being generous). Every once in a while, you surprise me. Most times, you're a parrot. Jews... the religious ones, actually use a matriarchal lineage as outlined by the Torah. So, there goes your next point right out the window.

I have stated in no uncertain terms that there is a danger in Kanye castigating a group of people without sufficient qualifiers (though I think jewish media at least attempts to make a distinction). I stated that it is a fool's errand to mention any heritage, because these people hide behind it. My point of bringing it up is that they are primarily of European decent, and they get a get-out-of-jail-free card they get to use because you can't say Jew in a sentence. Hitler was bad. We get it. This elite group to which Kanye and some others are referring are also exploitative. We should be able to have a conversation about that. The entertainment and media complex in this country is filtered through a very small cadre of people that literally get to shape the national discussion and can and do influence and manipulate markets.

Also, lol at you thinking you can pick the average Jew out of a lineup. Geez, dude.

Your initial, unqualified claim that Ashkenazi Jews are "mostly European" is essentially the Khazar hypothesis.

The Torah speaks in terms of patrilineal ancestry in general, with specific and limited exceptions.  The Talmud, a later, less attested, and post-Christian document, says matrilineal.  Historically, Christianity has taught that only Jewish documents that are prior to Jesus are important or inspired.   Modern Jews are afraid of future persecution, and in the US that would only ever plausibly come with the permission of American Christians, Christians who are unlikely to give much credit to your theory that Ashkenazi Jews are "mostly European".  

My father is Jewish.  Jews enjoy learning how to pick each other out of a crowd. He has a surprisingly high success rate.  I'm sure I've picked up some of his skills. Even if you doubt this, the last names are dead giveaways for most Ashkenazi Jews.  Remember last names werent a thing 500 years ago.  People started adopting them later.  Any Ashkenazi Jew who was in German or Russian or Austrian imperial realms adopted a distinctly Yiddish last name. Only the tiny number of French, Swiss, Scandinavian, and British Jews were able to get more ordinary sounding last names.  The Nazis imprisoned and killed Jews who had been baptized as Christians. Some had even adopted new names and raised children as Christians.  The Nazis were able to "pick them out of a lineup" not only due to distinctive hair and facial features but also with the help of their last names. And this is academic in the 21st century anyhow, we have DNA testing. A future government somewhere that wishes to finish what the Nazis started will probably use DNA tests before executing their victims.

Altogether your writing on this topic, and your instinct to defend Kanye, speak to an ignorance of how these things can advance from "just asking questions" to genocide.  Or perhaps you truly have malice or mental illness.

If you really cared about taking down elites and making a more fair and open society, you wouldn't care that one of the elites is in a racist fight with the other elites.

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