(11-06-2022, 10:41 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote:

(11-05-2022, 07:11 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: This might go down as one of the weirdest threads in Jags forum history. Also, you don't have Asperger's.

Yeah, certainly not MY intent when i posted this.

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(11-06-2022, 08:45 AM)mikesez Wrote: It's intuitive that homelessness will be bad for your brain.

You're never going to see a controlled experiment on that, though. All scientists can say is that they are correlated. Same story with substance abuse.  There is a strong correlation between substance abuse and homelessness but it's not possible, ethically, to show which way the causation goes.  

Further, most homeless people don't have mental illness and most don't abuse drugs. But if you feel sure that all we have to do is "treat the drug problem" then you should be equally sure that we need to "treat the mental health problem".  

Meanwhile, assuming you're successful in treating those problems, where are they going to live after treatment? 
Lack of affordable housing is the problem at the beginning and the end.  And that has been proven, because rent and wage data are much higher quality than data on mental illness and drug use.  High rent causes homelessness.  Rent control does not lower rent.  Only building more housing lowers rent.

I'd be interested in seeing links supporting this statement.  Otherwise, it's as useless as the keyboard you typed it on.

"The National Coalition for the Homeless has found that 38% of homeless people are alcohol dependent, and 26% are dependent on other harmful chemicals."[url=https://www.addictioncenter.com/drugs/][/url]

https://www.addictioncenter.com/addiction/homelessness/

Those are significant minorities,  much higher than what they are in the population with homes, but they are still minorities.
The numbers for diagnosed mental illness among the homeless vs homed are similar to the numbers for drug and alcohol use.

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(11-06-2022, 11:00 AM)Sneakers Wrote:

(11-06-2022, 08:45 AM)mikesez Wrote: It's intuitive that homelessness will be bad for your brain.

You're never going to see a controlled experiment on that, though. All scientists can say is that they are correlated. Same story with substance abuse.  There is a strong correlation between substance abuse and homelessness but it's not possible, ethically, to show which way the causation goes.  

Further, most homeless people don't have mental illness and most don't abuse drugs. But if you feel sure that all we have to do is "treat the drug problem" then you should be equally sure that we need to "treat the mental health problem".  

Meanwhile, assuming you're successful in treating those problems, where are they going to live after treatment? 
Lack of affordable housing is the problem at the beginning and the end.  And that has been proven, because rent and wage data are much higher quality than data on mental illness and drug use.  High rent causes homelessness.  Rent control does not lower rent.  Only building more housing lowers rent.

You're equating eviction with extended homelessness, which is incorrect.  Everything that follows in your post is meaningless, because you don't understand the topic of discussion.  Why don't you look up the definitions of both and try again?

What did I ever do to you? Pick on someone else.
If you have to pick on me, at least read what I write.  I didn't "equate eviction with extended homelessness." I didn't even mention eviction in that post.

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