(11-14-2022, 08:18 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(11-13-2022, 10:21 PM)mikesez Wrote: I would feel cheated if I was her.  It's not hard to make me feel frustrated. I would feel very frustrated.  But just because a person feels a certain way doesn't mean he or she has a point about anything.

If we think this situation is unacceptable, nothing can be done now.  Kari Lake agreed to play the game under these rules.  You don't change the rules in the middle of the game.  

Like Marty suggested, we could make a rule that a state's SoS can't run for office while in office, and that would prevent this from happening again, but it would not solve this particular case.  And it would be pretty ridiculous,  as Marty said.

Thank you. This should be the national sentiment. It should have been the national sentiment LAST election. However, democrats were too busy calling people election deniers. Why? Most likely because they don't actually want to fix these problems. People need to stop being afraid of being called names. This narrative is ridiculous on its face. 

Personally, I think the democrats are cheating. I spent a good amount of time looking at the numbers last election, and I posted what I thought were OBVIOUS cases of fraud in swing states. This election, I did the same and I couldn't find it. I still believed they cheated, based on the fact that they blew away the polls and republican turnout was HUGE this year except in a few key blue counties, but they did it well if they did it. I was resigned to just accept the results, because if it's that clean, what can you do about it?

Then there is AZ and all the seats that are slowly turning to Dems days after the election. The odds of them winning all these toss up elections was astronomically low. This kind of failure deserves nationwide scrutiny.

I think it's fair that we can't do anything about it after the fact... especially if nothing has been proven. My complaint is that the sentiment that there is the appearance of fraud should not only be acceptable, but it should also be mainstream. Instead, the talking heads and prevailing powers say you can't even mention it or you're an election denier. That's just absurd. Even more so, are the people that carry their water for them. WE need to make THEM do our bidding. I just can't get over how short sighted we are as a species.

"...all the seats that are slowly turning to Dems days after the election."

More Democrats than Republicans are voting by mail.  So as they count the mail in ballots, the Democrats pick up votes.  They have Republican observers in all the vote counting places in AZ.  They're watching everything.  

In 2020, Trump actually discouraged Republicans from voting by mail, and the Democrats encouraged it.  Then, very predictably, as they counted the mail in ballots, and Biden picked up votes, Trump claimed fraud.  It might be the same thing happening this time.  

"Instead, the talking heads and prevailing powers say you can't even mention it or you're an election denier." 

I think what the talking heads are saying is, stop claiming fraud if you can't prove it.  People need to have faith in elections, and if you claim elections are being stolen, without any proof, it just tears the country apart.

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