(11-13-2022, 10:02 PM)Caldrac Wrote: I am on the fence. Have to remember this is also Caldwell's first year as an actual defensive coordinator.

I think this defense has some personnel issues setting it back. Some of it's coachable, some of it's not.

I think the glaring issue is lack of big time plays from supposed big time players. Starting with Allen up front.

I got a ton of [BLEEP] for saying to trade him nearly three weeks ago. He's not doing enough as a four year player and veteran on this team. It's concering that Smoot has more sacks than him with less opportunities.

Walker and Lloyd are rookies. Fatukasi and Oloukon are highly paid newcomers. Darious Williams as well. I like what I have seen out of Cisco and Jenkins this year. Secondary play has been better without Griffin and Campbell does a good enough job.

I just don't see any push or pressure at all. Doesn't matter it it's from the outside or interior. I have routinely seen Allen and Walker use the same bull rush move, one on one all year and it has no effect at all.

Allen seems to lose contain. A lot. Lost contain to Wilson late in London. Lost contain to Mahomes once or twice today. That's with Walker holding his own and commanding a double team in his direction to enable Allen to be the athlete that he is on a one on one situation and he fails routinely.

It's a personnel problem. Even more concerning when you realize that the last three, four opponents they faced had pretty banged up offensive lines with missing pieces and in some cases down to a third string.

Cisco took out one of their receiving threats early today and they were already short another receiver in this game and the pass rush STILL couldn't take advantage of it.

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I agree with most of this. I still wouldn't have wanted to trade Allen though.

But I agree that this smells more like talent than coaching. This was our "worst" loss of the year and it was only 10 points against one of the best offenses/qbs in the league. We have a shutout this year, and have had quite a few strong performances. The problem is most everyone on defense is pretty average. We have Campbell, Llyod, Cisco who I think are potential pro bowl guys at their positions, and Walker has the ability to get there. But outside of that, there's no one.

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