(11-14-2022, 09:15 AM)SeldomRite Wrote:

(11-14-2022, 09:06 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Why are we dropping our standards? The standard used to be to avoid even the pretense of corruption. This is why people should recuse themselves even if they feel like they can be fair. It's not because they are liars, but because other people need to know the system is fair. I would not be up in arms about this mess if Democrats simply defied odds. I mean, I don't doubt for a second I would be pointing out the implausibility of that situation, but that's not really the issue I'm addressing now.

Literally everything they do with regards to voting weakens our confidence in the integrity of the voting process. That is their POLICY. Voter ID? Nope. Signatures on ballots? Nope. Illegal immigrants? Sure. Underage voting. Let's do it. Extended voting. Early voting. Mail-in voting. Ballot harvesting. We can't open things up unless we are technologically securing ballots, and we can't do that if we can't make a system with checks and balances with regards to that technology.

Our system needs to be as pure as possible so that people can trust it. I feel like you guys constantly get the cause and effect wrong.

Republicans need to be the change they want to see before they start complaining about stuff.

A big problem in politics is that the public doesn't perceive a difference between the parties a lot of times, and the fact that republicans are only interested in what the other side is doing but never hold their own side accountable isn't helping that.

Republicans need to be the change sure, but how do you change a system if you aren't the one in power because the broken system elected the party that isn't interested in fixing the system? This is a huge catch 22. Until the Dems lose close elections by the very system they have created, then there will be little interest in fixing it. Why secure a system against corruption and fraud when its working for you time after time? As others have said before in this forum, the Repubs need to work more on gaming and beating the system as it exists today.

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