(11-15-2022, 04:04 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Election fraud was already a concern for the base of the Republican party in this election. The Republican legislature passed legislation to refine the voting process, but the outgoing Republican governor vetoed it, which made the situation even more suspect. Kari Lake basically ran on cleaning up election fraud.

Her opponent barely campaigned in comparison to Lake. She wouldn't debate Kari Lake. The polls, which notoriously underrepresent Republicans, predicted a win for Lake. On the day of elections, voting machines go out disproportionately affecting 10's of thousands of Republican voters who are told to put their ballots in a box to be removed from site and counted at a different location. That failure resulted in ridiculous wait times (which if you recall, is voter disenfranchisement, according to Dems), and a judge ruled that the polls couldn't stay open longer.

3 days after election day, AZ had only counted 70% of the votes. That's absurd. The request that Hobbs recuse herself from overseeing the election is denied, which, all by itself creates the appearance of impropriety.

Here's some interesting numbers: 200,000 more people voted in this election than last one in Maricopa County alone. Coincidentally, Hobbs got all 200k of those votes. Lake slightly underperformed Doucey, but their numbers were basically the same. Just so we're clear, that means only Democrats turned out in higher numbers? Lol, ok. The population in that county has only grown by 200k since 2018, so it's not like it's just Californians moving there.

Every time you get into the numbers you start seeing shady stuff like this. It would be one thing if you saw Lake taking massive dives in numbers from the previous year, but you don't. And, I know you want to believe everything you're told, but normally if you see a bump in voting numbers, the entirety of that bump doesn't go to one party. It just doesn't.... at least not without some sort of explanation (like Hispanics turning in FL).

1) The voting machines went down in Maricopa County, where the voting is run by Republicans.  Did the Republicans in Maricopa County conspire to torpedo their own candidate?  

2) You don't know that the voting machine outage disproportionately affected Republicans.  You have no way of knowing how many Republicans or Democrats were standing in line when that happened.  Maricopa County is about 50-50 Dems vs Republicans.  And by the way, voting machine malfunctions happen every election day all over the country.  It's not unusual.  

3) The counting process is being slowed down because of an unusually large number of mail in ballots were dropped off at election headquarters on election day by people who didn't want to use the drop boxes.  No one knows why.  Maybe they were intimidated by the armed men at the drop boxes.  And all those ballots that were dropped off on election day have to go through signature verification.  

4) Only Democrats turned out in higher numbers?  You have no way of knowing that.  You assume that because someone voted for Hobbs, that means they are a Democrat.  It could be that both parties turned out in higher numbers, and more of them voted for Hobbs than voted for Lake.  And what if Democrats did turn out in higher numbers?  So what?  

5) "...normally if you see a bump in voting numbers, the entirety of that bump doesn't go to one party."  Why not?  Maybe a bunch of people who hadn't voted before came out to vote against Kari Lake.  

6) "200,000 more people voted in this election than last one in Maricopa County alone. Coincidentally, Hobbs got all 200k of those votes."  IF it is true that 200,000 new voters voted, you cannot know that the 200,000 new voters all voted for Hobbs.  I'm sure you're smart enough to understand that.  

Look, anyone can cherry-pick facts and make up some sort of theory.  I think that's what you've done in this case.

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