(11-29-2022, 12:51 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(11-29-2022, 12:28 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: How many picks do you think he'd have thrown if Urban Meyer didn't throw him to the wolves in a system not tailored to a rookie much less his own strengths and weaknesses?

Even if wasn't Pederson but just a competent NFL coach in 2021 - do you think those numbers are different?  

Because that is exactly what I meant with the second half of the sentence you quoted.

He's credited with 3 comebacks and 4 game winning drives now in 28 starts on Pro Football Reference. The interception argument from his rookie year too is pretty wild. Urban Mayer absolutely did him no favors. Just looking at his gamelogs from last year. He had two games, including his first career start, with over 50 passing attempts. He had another three games with 40 or more pass attempts.

This is with [BLEEP] box blocking, [BLEEP] box receivers and [BLEEP] box running. The guy was entering virtually every game last year in a 6ft hole and they just threw the shovel at him, like, "Here, get us out of this mess because we clearly cannot coach nor scheme effectively at this level to help you out".

That kind of approach is acceptable in say, year two, maybe year three. He had eight games where he threw no picks. Then he had two really bad games with 4 picks tossed in each loss. The season opener on the road and then the shutout loss to the tacks where the first pick was really on Dan Arnold. So, meh. 

Not point in dwelling on the past though. He's not even the same QB this year with competent coaching around him. God only knows where he's at now had it been year two entering the NFL with Pederson instead of being handed four flat tires as a rookie. We all know now it was coaching. Not the player.

Jags would be winning the AFC South right now if Pederson was the coach for the last 2 seasons. 

But, like you said, no point in dwelling on the past. The Jags don't get the #1 pick unless they start Minshew, Glennon and Luton. Jags don't land Pederson unless they had the disaster in Urban. I'm grateful that the Jags started bums at QB in 2020 and hired Urban in 2021! Pederson/Lawrence to the moon!

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