(12-05-2022, 06:37 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: You know what, I don't care what you do. The point I am making is that, at some point, if the system is not working as designed, you are going to have to work outside it, EVEN if you want it restored.

I have gone on record after 2020 that I didn't believe, under any circumstance, that Trump should be reinstated, and said that Biden was President. I also stated that voting needed to be cleaned up, laws needed to be changed to insure the integrity of the voting process so that people would feel confident their results reflected the reality of the situation. That didn't happen, and we have the same problem. EVEN if everything is exactly what we see and people are voting for Democrats in historic numbers (which they aren't), the more people believe the system is rigged, the more they are going to want to work outside the system to fix it.

It's on people like YOU to stop focusing on Trump and start putting pressure on the people exploiting it so that the vast majority of the people in this country feel confident that their voice matters. You can't do that as long as you think Trump is the real problem. He goes away when we clean up the establishment. Your priorities are wrong. Stop pointing to the symptom (Trump) and start addressing the root of the corruption (not Trump).

I agree that Trump is one problem while the parge number of people who believe that elections are being rigged is a separate but related problem.

But this group is far from a majority, and this group never would have tried anything like Jan 6th without Trump egging them on.

But who do you blame for this large minority of people who think elections are being rigged? Who was it and what did they do? Do you have proof?

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(12-05-2022, 06:55 PM)Jags Wrote:

(12-05-2022, 07:00 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: ‘The nomination is mine.’

Ron will get my vote in the primaries if he runs, that’s for sure. I already planned on that.  Mikesez can’t vote in the primary, for obvious reasons.

I can't vote in the Democrats' primary.  But I can vote in the Republican one.  And I'll probably vote for Ron.  I did in 2018.

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