(12-07-2022, 01:43 PM)carp8dm Wrote: (12-07-2022, 12:42 PM)Mikey Wrote: dude, go to google, type "james robinson stats", not hard to find sites with data. I tend to use pro football reference for a lot of research, they got all kinds of stuff.
I'm not stuck in the past. You could tell that JRob was not a fit for the present mold. Once Etienne was on his feet, the priority shifted. The team moved on.
Here's where I stand. Jrob was good for a us for a while. He's currently putting up quite replaceable numbers. We got a conditional 5th/6th for him. Neither side of the argument is worth fighting over. They're both insignificant.
I'm not here to argue against the trade, other than, it looks like a bad one now...
I'm just here pointing out facts.
The fact is that ETN was clearly the best RB in the entire group. ETN has been gifted by God with his physical ability. There is no doubt. But with that said, he's coming off an injury and hasn't been proven in the NFL yet. With the first few games he played, he dropped balls and fumbled as well.
Even with all that liability Caldwell decided to move on from Robinson. Caldwell moved off Robinson all while the Coaching staff had no confidence in Hasty or Snoop. And it's clear that the coaches still have no confidence in Hasty or Snoop. So what does that tell you? Probably nothing, cuz you aren't really thinking this through... But it tells me that the coaching staff had the rug pulled out from under them.
The fact that they immediately make ETN the work horse and only put in Hasty when ETN got hurt proves my point. Conversely, when Robinson was on the squad the coaches shared rushes between the 2 Running Backs.
I'm just saying that hindsight is 20/20. And if you are honest with yourself, you realize that trade of Robinson was a bad move. A normal person would look at the dynamic between ETN and Robinson and see that this could be sustainable for at least a year and let both players work off eachother. ETN could have learned a TON from Robinson. Robinson would have gained trade value after proving his Achille's was no longer an issue.
Instead, we got the worst of all of it. We got a young RB that is coming off Lisfranc with no real subsitute and we traded the one mentor and sub he had for a 5th rounder.
Baalke made a terrible move with that one, and it's not even really a debate.
I'm not sure you know this, but there is something similar that happened in Jacksonville with 2 RBs...
Yeah, I do, and I know it rubbed Fred the wrong way when we brought his replacement in, and that guy started taking his workload. JRob doesn't have the history or talent to make that a fair comparison, nor do the offensive schemes give this any credibility.
In hindsight, the move is insgnificant. Period. JRob wasn't in the plans, he wasn't gonna re-sign with us when his contract ended, we got little more than a ham sandwich to brag over as return from moving on, Etienne wasn't going to become Adrian Peterson because JRob was on the bench cheering him on. All of these things have zero impact on our franchise's current and long-term health. Say it with me, insignificant.