(12-09-2022, 12:19 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote:

(12-09-2022, 12:08 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Exceptionality is not the norm, and it's naive to expect that attribute in others. Your wife sounds like a remarkable woman, but what was driving her? Do you think that trait is common in everyone? Why isn't everyone in Peru an middle class American now? Do they just lack the motivation to move to America? Where does one get motivation?

Why isn't everyone a banker? I mean... it's great pay. All you need to do is bootstraps, right? Why aren't we all millionaires? The opportunity is there. We just have to work harder, right? What are we complaining about the government for if it's all that easy?

I guess my overall point is that opportunity is there if you work hard.  You can make your own luck and create your own opportunity, you can aspire to something greater.  And of course not everyone is going to succeed.  I wasn't implying that. But the quote by Representative Lee is that there is no opportunity without it being given to you free via wealth distribution by the government.  And that's simply not true.  Plenty of people have excelled in life without the help of the government and its poverty enabling give-away policies.

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(12-09-2022, 12:15 PM)mikesez Wrote: The more I learn about this Scott Maxwell Frost guy the less I like.  He's the next district over so I didn't learn about him during the election.  But the local news was really fawning over, "Look how young! And Bernie likes him!"
Didn't bother to tell us he started at Valencia and never finished.  When I turned 26 I had two degrees.  And I don't consider that enough to be qualified as a Congressman.  This guy has nothing but classes towards an AA degree and an arrest record.

College is overrated, especially today.

That being said, I see a political meltdown in that guy's future.

I think there are plenty of people born into poor inner city families in the US who end up having the drive and success that your wife had.  It's just not many of them.  Just like most Latin American immigrants don't end up in high paying careers, even though some, like your wife, do.  

We just have this illusion over decades that the inner city always sucks and always has degenerates, and we don't see the churn that some people pull up out of that life while others fall in.

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