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I’m not gonna let y’all ride on Herndon

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(12-20-2022, 12:50 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(12-20-2022, 12:32 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: I suppose I really have no clue whether or not Tyson Campbell can handle man coverage against the possible route combinations from a really good route runner in the slot postion. So maybe you are right.

However we had no problem moving Herndon from his natural postion at nickel as he has had to cover inside and outside receivers in man coverage. 

Obviously he’s a better nickel than he is an outside guy… 

all I know is that while some of the other Dallas receivers did have some success.. including the guy who dropped the final
Pass… Tyson Campbell supposedly had a good day largely matched up against Michael Gallup I suppose because he was exclusively lined up at X or Z. If that’s the case and Lamb is head and shoulders above any other receiver on that roster. Why not only when you are in man coverage and not in zone mind you … have your best corner shadow their best receiver who is in the process of shredding you for 6 catches and 100 plus yards in the first half largely against man to
Man coverage…


Ok I get it… he can’t guard anyone unless he lines up at X or Z because it goes against the structure of our defense.. which by the way to me is a load of crap as I have seen many top corners from high school level to the professional guard inside receivers lined up in the slot in man to man coverage (One of those corners who I saw do that BTW was Tyson Campbell when he played at Plantation American Heritage down in Fort Lauderdale coached by a damn good head coach/ defensive coordinator and player in Patrick Surtan SR.) 

But for Gods sake Herndon wasn’t getting the job done … let’s give Campbell a try and let Herndon try his luck vs Gallup. Only in man coverage mind you not with any of our zone pressures or anything that requires our nickel to play anything other than man coverage…

Just my opinion. And to be honest there is a lot of what we have been doing this year on defense that seems so complex that we seem completely lost in coverage so I have little faith in anything Caldwell does at this point. 

Hope he proves me wrong and we make a strong run to finish the season though. and I hope Garrett Wilson lines up exclusively on the outside this Thursday.

I don't disagree with any of that.

I just think Campbell is so busy trying to mitigate lack of talent at 5 spots on the defense he couldn't take on implementing Campbell moving the secondary around to shadow Lamb without throwing too much at a struggling unit. 

Ideally - he'd be able to do that. For sure. I just don't think they were prepared to do it based on everything else they are trying to band-aid.
 

That’s def fair. That’s why I think only in one specific look.. and that is whenever you want to go man to man, you say hey that’s their best guy and we are not going to let him beat us. If Gallup bests us because we have no other DB on the roster 
Who can play man coverage then fine .. but let’s do all we can when we want to isolate our players on theirs in man to get our best on their best…

we seem to be a very multiple
defense. Lots of zone pressure and man pressure.. lots of lineman dropping in coverage and sometimes dropping 8 or so. Eventually I think we did make some adjustments which includes  giving more help and or bodies to cover Lamb which was more effective in the second half as his effect fell off significantly from the first.. 

and maybe that was Herndon playing better although I did notice on the last 3rd and 10  that the cowboys tried to throw the vertical route on the sideline Lamb drew three defenders on his seam route which was very smart considering the significance of that play on the game ..

I just hope we say to ourselves eventually look we can’t cover everyone.. let’s at least give us a chance to minimize the effect of getting beat by their top threat however we can and not just leave him matched up against whoever in isolation.


this week I think that threat is Garret Wilson.. but I know the jets have several weapons on the outside so it may not matter .
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RE: I’m not gonna let y’all ride on Herndon - by TTechJag85 - 12-20-2022, 01:03 PM



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