(12-29-2022, 03:24 AM)Eric1 Wrote:

(12-29-2022, 01:35 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I think the 2017 team is overrated. Our team made the playoffs almost exclusively off the Defenses ability to score. I think that run was a fluke.

I'm not so sure, at least as far as the defense goes. That 2017 defense was statistically one of the best defenses of all time, across the board. They were really damn good.

The Offense did just enough, but that Defense was the real deal and not a fluke. It was right up there with the 2000 Ravens etc.

Myles Jack still isn't down by the way.

This is my point. I think they were very good, don't get me wrong... but the team RELIED on their turnovers. If you played a team that didn't turn over the ball, their offense was trash. Not only did the rely on turnovers, but the D scored a LOT (for a defense). They scored 7 of our 43 TDs that year. That's basically a 6th of our offense. I think you guys are forgetting how bad Bortles was, and that was arguably his best year. 

Personally, I think the 2017 team's scoring and turnover numbers were flukish... not because they weren't good, but because it wasn't repeatable. They only lost Poz in the offseason and that team fell apart. An aging and slow Poz was irreplaceable. Think about that. Without that glue putting people in the right position, they couldn't come close to generating the same numbers in 2018. 

I would never argue that defense wasn't good. It was. It was great. I just think if you play 10 seasons with the same team, you are going to have an ebb and flow on the turnover and TD ratio, and we just happened to get one of the better ones that year. That led us to the playoffs, and we failed when the [BLEEP] refs couldn't see that Myles Jack wasn't down.

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