(12-30-2022, 09:19 AM)rfc17 Wrote:

(12-30-2022, 08:15 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: They're meaningless records.

The records that mean something are ones like passing TDs in a season. Having been the QB for the longest time isn't particularly indicative of a big impact.

I'd argue even the season records may be somewhat meaningless.  Bortles owns that for yards and TDs.  NFL stats just don't have the staying power that they do in other sports.  I could make an argument that the best passing year in NFL history is Marino throwing for 5k yards in 1984.  No one threw for 5k yards again until Drew Brees did it 25 years later which is an eternity in NFL standards.  But from 2010 to now, it's been done a bunch of times.  

As far as the Jags, Brunell has the longevity records.  Bortles has some of the meaningful season records.  Lawrence should be able to easily surpass both in time.  But I still think Brunell is the best QB we've ever had based on a combination of ability and longevity with the team.  And I'd argue his 96 season was the best passing season we've ever had.  Led the league in passing yards, yards/attempt, and rushing yards by a QB.  Yea threw a bunch of picks but that was mostly in the first half of the season before our big push to the playoffs.  All NFL stats and players themselves really need to be graded in terms of how they compare to their peers and the era they played in.

I appreciate your arguments, and you're right that none of the records hold much meaning between eras. That's why Brunell is best understood by comparing him with his contemporaries and accounting for the hall of fame level talent surrounding him.

He was a mid tier QB on a stacked team during his successful years. He was a major part of what kept the team from getting a Superbowl. A QB of Trevor's level on the late 90s Jaguars teams would have won at least one championship.

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