(12-31-2022, 01:49 PM)carp8dm Wrote:

(12-29-2022, 07:04 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: He's a middle of the pack QB that has moments of looking franchise level.
At least that's what I've seen without doing a deep dive on his 2022 film.

That may sound like a slight - but it means there's a dozen teams that would vie for his services and that's not a bad spot to be in, especially after the raiders already paid him enough to retire on.

There's nothing wrong with being a top 12-15 QB.  That means you're teams are always in the playoff hunt, and if you have a good GM and Good HC, you could find team in the SuperBowl if things fall right.

The only thing I disagree with you is that I think being a top 12-15 QB is a franchise QB.  Getting a top 5 QB is rare.  But you can be a fun, enjoyable franchise to support and cheer on if you have a QB like Carr that is a professional, can make all the throws, but is just a step below the best of the best.

Plenty of teams wins Super Bowls with that type of franchise QB.  Just look at Flacco, Eli Manning, Russel Wilson, etc...

What's a killer is when you have a 18-32 QB and your franchise has no ability to upgrade.  That's when you live in hell for 10 years or so...

Pretty hard to disagree with me on something I never said. 

Saying a guy occasionally looks like a franchise QB and a dozen teams could upgrade with him is NOT whatever you're trying to attribute to me. 

If you want the most literal interpretation of my post, it would be  "he's roughly the 20th ranked QB in the league and is not a franchise QB - but sometimes plays like one"

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