(02-09-2023, 08:04 PM)copycat Wrote:

(02-09-2023, 07:37 PM)mikesez Wrote: The burden of research or scholarship is always on the one making the outlandish claim, or the one asking for money. 
The old onus on the anus rule. 
My claim that the traditional values of the commonwealth of Virginia call for the segregation of races is self evidently true.  
And my claim about socialism being defined by government ownership of the means of production is almost verbatim from the dictionary.  
Your claims to the contrary are extraordinary, and therefore require not just evidence, but extraordinary evidence.

Still that when you hear “traditional values” you think it’s about racism says more about you than anyone else.

Black folks were kept separate and inferior in Virginia from 1619 to 1959.   Name a stronger tradition. Not all Virginians went to school.  Not all of them went to church.  Some drank, some didn't.  Some were loyal to the British, some weren't. Some believed in capitalism and free trade, some believed in tariffs. But until 1959 they were all segregated, or worse (except military personell, who desgregated in 1948).  All of them were involved in it.  Everyone.  For 340 years.  Yes, the last 60 years have been about fixing that, but still, nearly everyone either experienced this tradition, or has a living grandparent who experienced it.  Soon the tradition will fade from living memory, but that day is not today.

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