(02-09-2023, 09:23 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote:

(02-08-2023, 04:49 PM)mikesez Wrote: I'm not saying there aren't any good parts of our traditional values.  In fact, if we limit the discussion to economics only, and confine "tradition" to the period from 1865 to 1929 only, those are some pretty good values that we would do well to try to bring back.  But that's not what most politicians mean when they talk about "traditional values".  Unfortunately most politicians intend it to be a dog whistle for bigots who want to go back to the days when no one was openly gay, and blacks and women all knew their place.

You're showing your moron again. Not everyone who believes in traditional values is a bigot who hates gays and thinks blacks and women should know their place. My God you are just dumb.