(02-20-2023, 10:26 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:

(02-20-2023, 07:52 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Can't double down on a take I never made. But to answer your question, no I don't think half a season of good football and less than 2 tds a game average qualifies as an elite QB.. basically what i'm saying is, he made huge strides going from 12-17 to 25-8 absolutely but if he were to be in the 25 td 8 int range for the remainder of his career, he'd be more in the class of an Alex Smith in my eyes. 

Josh Allen is has had plenty of time to show what he is and has been a very meh player, not worthy of his draft selection at all thusfar no.

Just an FYI, but it took Smith 8 seasons before he had a single season with as many as 20 TDs, and only three such seasons in his sixteen season career. Furthermore, it took him seven seasons to get to the playoffs.

Did you ever see Alex Smith lead a 27 point comeback?

That you'd have such a laughable lack of perspective isn't surprising.

(02-21-2023, 09:10 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(02-21-2023, 03:35 AM)IKhan't Wrote: Wow! I've never seen this guy before, but I really enjoy his takes. I agree with almost everything he had to say, except for when he stated Jawaan Taylor is a better RT than Josh Allen is an edge rusher. I don't agree with that at all. I'm not a fan of Taylor. Everything else he says about Allen though, I agree 100%. It pains me to say that though, because I was a fan of Allen when he was selected and I had very high hopes for him. The way this guy explained his reasoning was also in a much more cohesive and well thought out way than I ever could have ever explained it as well. I'm gonna have to look this guy up on YouTube. Thanks for posting this.

T-Wigg is cool. His podcast is usually good. He's worth following for sure. 

He's missing two things badly in this episode. He's stuck on paying a guy "more than he's worth" as if it is some important validation of his Josh Allen take. 

It's not.

NFL rosters are probably anywhere from 20-40% made up of guys being paid more than they are worth. 
Overpaying Allen could indeed be a problem, I'm not going to deny that. But he's too hung up on that notion.
Just bake in a team friendly out clause in the contract. Get out in 2 years if he doesn't produce. It's common language in many deals these days. 

Secondly - he doesn't really address the fact that there is no actual plan to replace Allen's productivity and the Jaguars very recently endured an 8 year drought of not being able to find a pass rusher at either edge or DE position. 

After a brief showing of decent pass rush from Paul Spicer and Bobby McCray - they waited EIGHT YEARS to find Yannick Ngakoue.   
Are we ready to kick Allen to the curb and risk that kind of ineptitude for years on end again? 

I also noticed at one point he seemed to assert that pressures/hurries from Allen didn't end up in incompletions when I can remember two such plays just from the week 18 and the LAC game. Both quite meaningful. 

Anyway - Gonna be interesting to see if Allen gets a deal and if he steps up - deal or no deal. 

Personally - I still 100% feel that with Williams and Campbell outside, you add a quality nickel and find some push up the middle front a 3 tech and Walker+Allen will have a jump in sacks numbers. The coverage buys them half of a tick longer to get home, and some push in the middle feeds them flushed quarterbacks a bit more often. 

That plan ^ feels like it will be easier than landing a double digit sack guy in the draft.