(03-03-2023, 09:03 AM)SeldomRite Wrote:

(03-03-2023, 08:57 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: I had this argument at work recently. It was during the probowl announcement and I said a top 5 QB should be in regardless. To which everyone initially was like "no way is Trevor a top 5 QB" So I'm like ok who's ahead of him?

Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Hurts

Then who do you put above him? Herbert who he beat twice this year? Tua? Goff? Give me Trevor over those 3 any day. 

After I spelled that out for them, they backtracked and said they'd all take Herbert over him (no surprise) but I made a good point on it. They conceded he's "top 10 at minimum"

Who really thinks Hurts is unequivocally above Trevor? There's a few out there. I think he's very good, but I do think Trevor is the better long term QB

When I think about QB ranking I think about who could swap teams and do better than who.

For Trevor there's only one QB that I'm convinced would do better than him if they swapped teams, and that's Mahomes. Mahomes is an alien, agreed.

Josh Allen and Joe Burrow? Maybe, but I'm not without doubt that they'd be as good with the Jaguars roster as they are with their own team, or that Trevor wouldn't also throw for 35 TDs if he were throwing to their receivers. I do completely agree. Give Trevor the weapons Burrow has? They'd be in similar situations. Allen is an enigma, but I've said many times, I think he has a short window of success. His play style is too reckless and dangerous. He's on a Cam Newton path IMO. Buffalo also missed their SB window, they're in a at least a two year rebuild at this point.

Hurts? He's on a nice run in a similar way to how Lamar Jackson has been, but I could see him being the next Kaepernick as easily as being the next Steve Young. I think Hurts will have more sustained success than Lamar, Philly is a good fit for him, but still, if he ever slows down with his legs or gets injured, can they beat you without the threat of the QB run? He's capable of it, but not nearly as much of a threat without that ability. Much like Lamar (and to a degree Allen), I'm not a fan of QBs who rely so much on their legs. I think Mahomes has the perfect blend of scrambling.